I don't consider Shang-chi to be anything special. For example, his marital skills, I don't remember being on the same level as Iron Fist who I think before his recent upgrades stood to take a 6/10 majority against shieldless cap.. .but with upgrades a lot more...
Shangchi... i'll say takes 3/10. Both would be the same skill level. But cap can't tire... is stronger... and faster... but thats due to his sss.
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Using his chi Shang is considerably stronger, faster and more durable than Cap. Shang has ridiculous superhuman stats when he amps himself. In a KMC match he would thump Cap 10/10
Okay. Cap has decapitated a metal ultron with his shield. his punches have hurt spiderman... took hits from ironman to the face...
are you... trying to say shang chi hits harder than iron man?...
or are you saying that shang chi is better than iron fist...
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
DD and Taskmaster amongst others have hurt Spiderman with their punches etc. Nothing special. Peak and low superhumans routinely survive getting hit by less skilled but much stronger opponents. Nothing special.
Shang has survived getting hit thousands of feet into the air and the subsequent fall. Scans won't post for some reason but they are on the first page of this thread. http://www.killermovies.com/forums/...chard+dragon%29
honestly figure iron fist > shang chi
and i compare cap to being able to hang with if.
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
I personally think Cap is a better fighter than Shang. However it is Shang's chi amping which gets him the win here. How is Cap going to hang with a guy who has vast superhuman stats AND is at least very close to him in skill without his shield?
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"managed to hang"?
he made a mockery of IF. the IF sent cap for a loop but did no real damage at all and cap was up again. sure IF was tired, but even he admitted cap was too much.
and what the hell is IF part of this for anyway . . .?
1. I'm pretty sure Danny had just fought the entire wrecking crew(I think)......so he would be very very tired.
2.No I'm sure he just said Cap's strength and speed were incredible, yet his skill was very basic. Also this was oldschool IF who was nowhere near as good as he is now. Aaaaaaaaaaand Cap thought Danny had committed a serious crime or something, so he was not holding back at all. Danny on the other hand was trying not to hurt Cap.
3. Lol. I know. An earlier poster had brought up IF. I think he was saying Cap has taken it to IF, and since IF is better than Shang, Cap wins. Pure ABC logic.
1.Cap not being killed instantly against Namor is down to Namor being a bollocks fighter, Cap being an incredible fighter, Cap being fast enough to keep up, his mighty shield and probably a bit of PIS thrown in for good measure. With Cap's shield Shang could conceivably do the same.
2.I have only seen the scans of Logan v Shang once. Unless I'm wrong about the circumstances that was bad writing in my opinion. Shang got handled in something like four panels and he seemed to forget he can amp his self with chi for goodness sake!
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