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MagnaGuard vs Imperial Royal Guard

If a MagnaGuard fought a typical non-Carnor Jax Royal Guard who would win?

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I would say the MagnaGuard, it wasn't as if the Royal Guards were Jedi or something.

But then Ahsoka destroyed three by herself.


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In "Labyrinth of Evil" five MagnaGuards take on at least eight Royal Guards and at least six soldiers (probably more of each). At the end of the battle there where three MagnaGuards remaining and no Guards or soldiers. Only two Guards were killed by Grievous, and he intervened only because they were in a hurry, not because he felt his aid was needed.

In fact Grievous notes that the Guards "were no real match for fearless war machines programmed to kill by any means possible."

So yeah, one-on-one the MagnaGuard wins this.

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Magnaguards pwn, but that's wierd because why doesn't the emperor surround himself with better trained guards? I mean, can't any guy with a blaster beat a royal guard? Or is their body armor capable of stopping blasters?


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Magnaguards pwn, but that's wierd because why doesn't the emperor surround himself with better trained guards? I mean, can't any guy with a blaster beat a royal guard? Or is their body armor capable of stopping blasters?
The royal guards are supposed to be Force-sensitive elite best-of-the-besters. And according to TFU, they've got saberstaffs.


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The royal guards are supposed to be Force-sensitive elite best-of-the-besters. And according to TFU, they've got saberstaffs.


Beg your pardon, but I'm afraid not. The ones with sabrestaffs were Shadow Guards (black armour with red visor). The 'regular' ones (red armour) used force pikes (not actually related to the Force BTW, it's just a name).

They were elite soldiers, but I don't recall the Red Guards being Force-sensitive. Can you post some examples?

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I've just re-checked "Labyrinth of Evil." My mistake, Grievous killed four Guards at the end, not two.

However it is noted that Grievous only waded in because time was short, not because he felt the MagnaGuards couldn't win without him (he even notes that they were doing well).

Final score-

MagnaGuards: at least four Red Guards, plus more than six soldiers (note: Grievous observes "six of the soldiers" being killed, meaning there were others).

Red Guards plus soldiers: two MagnaGuards

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Beg your pardon, but I'm afraid not. The ones with sabrestaffs were Shadow Guards (black armour with red visor). The 'regular' ones (red armour) used force pikes (not actually related to the Force BTW, it's just a name).

They were elite soldiers, but I don't recall the Red Guards being Force-sensitive. Can you post some examples?
Begging your pardon, but I'm afraid not. From Wookieepedia:

"Members of the Royal Guard were hand-picked from the ranks of the most elite stormtroopers. Each recruit was scrutinized to fit select size, strength, intelligence and loyalty requirements, as well as latent Force sensitivity. Recruits strong but not too strong in the Force were noted and pulled aside to test into a special class of Royal Guards known as Sovereign Protectors. If they passed these even more rigorous tests, they were trained by Dark Jedi to wield the Force."


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Are we allowed to extrapolate the royal guardsmen skill based on Kir Kanos's displays of skill. Because during a battle, imperials have their "heavy ground vehicles destroyed and more then 51% of their troops killed, and the commanders of the imperial forces say most of their casualties have been inflicted by Kir Kanos.

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We're not allowed using Kanos. Though really, I don't know much of a Royal Guard's skills outside of him and Carnor Jax.


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Are we allowed to extrapolate the royal guardsmen skill based on Kir Kanos's displays of skill. Because during a battle, imperials have their "heavy ground vehicles destroyed and more then 51% of their troops killed, and the commanders of the imperial forces say most of their casualties have been inflicted by Kir Kanos.


The OP clearly states that this about "a typical non-Carnor Jax Royal Guard."

Kanos and Jax were both exceptionally talented. Neither was "a typical Royal Guard."

So no, we aren't.

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Begging your pardon, but I'm afraid not. From Wookieepedia:

"Members of the Royal Guard were hand-picked from the ranks of the most elite stormtroopers. Each recruit was scrutinized to fit select size, strength, intelligence and loyalty requirements, as well as latent Force sensitivity. Recruits strong but not too strong in the Force were noted and pulled aside to test into a special class of Royal Guards known as Sovereign Protectors. If they passed these even more rigorous tests, they were trained by Dark Jedi to wield the Force."


Where in that does it say anything about the Royal Guards having sabrestaffs?

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Where in that does it say anything about the Royal Guards having sabrestaffs?
No where. Wait... yeah, no where. But they are Force-sensitives.


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Why aren't people using the damn Edit button ??


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Aren't so nice now mister 'damn' this and 'screw' that!?!? HUH?


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Why aren't people using the damn Edit button ??
Ignorance on their part?

See that? Benefit of the doubt. You were right about me being nice. Tell Nemesis... you were right.


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No.

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How many fatal errors I may make, I'm still the nicest person in the Versus & EU forums.

Sorry, I'm just a tier above all of you.


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Telling someone that you are 'a tier above' them certainly doesn't strike me as being very nice.


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Sorry, that was too much a blunt representation of the cold, hard truth.

But nice =/= subtle. Or does it ?


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