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Doctor light vs Vulcan

Who wins?


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Doctor Light's control over "light" can apparently override Wonder Girl's lasso and Green lantern constructs.


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Doctor Light's control over "light" can apparently override Wonder Girl's lasso and Green lantern constructs.


What does that have to do with vulcan?


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What does that have to do with vulcan?


it means vulcan's f*cked.

also, shame on you for not specifying which doctor light it was.


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it means vulcan's f*cked.

also, shame on you for not specifying which doctor light it was.


Whats the difference in power, ok, I'll use the male version of doctor light since the current one seems much weaker.


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Whats the difference in power, ok, I'll use the male version of doctor light since the current one seems much weaker.


they're different characters. complely different people. you're supposed to specify.

either light massacres vulcan, though.


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Originally posted by occultdestroyer
Doctor Light RAPES


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erm

I get the bias, guys. Vulcan sucks as a character.

He'd still beat either Doctor Light, though. Credit where its due.

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erm

I get the bias, guys. Vulcan sucks as a character.

He'd still beat either Doctor Light, though. Credit where its due.


"Where it's due"


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I'm going with Vulcan. big grin

I don't like what DC did in Identity Crisis.
I'm not going to consider it canon. stick out tongue


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"Where it's due"

Vulcan controls the entire electromagnetic spectrum...as well as apparently spiritual energy and magical energies. And has metallic manipulation abilities, minor telekinetic and telepathic abilities, and can flat turn off other people's metahuman abilities.

He's far more versatile. And his energy blasts are more powerful.


He sucks. But he wins here.

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When has Vulcan shown that he controls the entire electromagnetic spectrum? Metallic manipulation abilities? What does that mean?

When has he shown telepathic or telekinetic powers?

When has he ever turned off, a metahuman's powers post Genesis? His never shown to do it on his own.

Also, that magic is just energy thing was stupid.

What do you mean he controls spiritual energy?

Damn, a lot of questions.


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Also, that magic is just energy thing was stupid.

What do you mean he controls spiritual energy?

Damn, a lot of questions.



Yeah I couldn't believe that "I energy manip, that means I manip magic." laughing out loud


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When has Vulcan shown that he controls the entire electromagnetic spectrum? Metallic manipulation abilities? What does that mean?

Deadly Genesis. Metallic manipulation abilities as in...he controls metal. Kind of like Magneto. But obviously to a lesser extent. Also in Genesis.

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When has he shown telepathic or telekinetic powers?

See above.

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When has he ever turned off, a metahuman's powers post Genesis? His never shown to do it on his own.

That was on his own. None of his teammates had that ability. It was Vulcan.

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What do you mean he controls spiritual energy?

I didn't know what else to call it.

He cuts off the Elder's power, which was being channeled to him by his entire race. I would assume it was done spiritually. This was during RAFOTSE I think.

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Deadly Genesis. Metallic manipulation abilities as in...he controls metal. Kind of like Magneto. But obviously to a lesser extent. Also in Genesis.


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See above.


Just because one can control metal doesn't mean one has complete control over the electromagnetic spectrum.

That aside, all those things you mentioned happened during Deadly Genesis. He never once showed those abilities post Deadly Genesis. There is a reason for that. Can you guess what it is?

It might be a combination of his team mates powers, or him simply using Darwin's abilities with a greater degree of control etc. but post, Deadly Genesis, he has never showed telekinetic, telepathic, or metallic manipulation from what I recall.

He never showed those abilities before he got his team mates powers and after he lost his team mates powers.

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That was on his own. None of his teammates had that ability. It was Vulcan.


Show me him doing it once before, Genesis, and after Genesis.

Vulcan has never shown that ability on his own. Like I said, it might be a combination of their powers with his, or him using them to new levels, but he has never done so without having his team mates powers.

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I didn't know what else to call it.

He cuts off the Elder's power, which was being channeled to him by his entire race. I would assume it was done spiritually. This was during RAFOTSE I think.


It could have been done physically.

You're right it did happen during the "Rise and Fall of the Shi'ar Empire".


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Yeah I couldn't believe that "I energy manip, that means I manip magic." laughing out loud


laughing

I was like what the hell? That was stupid.


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Just because one can control metal doesn't mean one has complete control over the electromagnetic spectrum.

I'm pretty sure he says it during Deadly Genesis. And if he doesn't, the whole, "Magic's just energy. And I manipulate all energy" thing should do it.

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It might be a combination of his team mates powers, or him simply using Darwin's abilities with a greater degree of control etc. but post, Deadly Genesis, he has never showed telekinetic, telepathic, or metallic manipulation from what I recall.

He was manipulating the electrical impulses in people's brains to simulate telepathy. Kind of like what DC's Triumph was doing in order to mind rape his teammates.

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He never showed those abilities before he got his team mates powers and after he lost his team mates powers.

Show me him doing it once before, Genesis, and after Genesis.

lol....Vulcan didn't exist as a character before Genesis.

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It could have been done physically.

You're right it did happen during the "Rise and Fall of the Shi'ar Empire".

All I know is that the Elder was powered by the telepathic or spiritual backing of his entire race. Vulcan was able to see where the energy was coming from, and cut him off from it.

Vulcan's shown the ability to manipulate more kinds of energy than Dr. Light has. And has a higher energy output. He wins.

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Originally posted by Enyalus I'm pretty sure he says it during Deadly Genesis. And if he doesn't, the whole, "Magic's just energy. And I manipulate all energy" thing should do it.


I don't recall that, and I'm to lazy to look for it. Do you have a scan or the issue number?

That was not only stupid, but the energy statement can just be hyperbole. As we have seen, Vulcan has clear limits to the amount of energy and the type of energy he can manipulate.

Also, if he was so adept at controlling the electromagnetic spectrum, Polaris wouldn't have done what she did to him.

He fancies himself a god.

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Originally posted by Enyalus He was manipulating the electrical impulses in people's brains to simulate telepathy. Kind of like what DC's Triumph was doing in order to mind rape his teammates.


You said telepathy, but I get what you're saying. He should potentially be capable of doing this on his own.

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Originally posted by Enyalus lol....Vulcan didn't exist as a character before Genesis.


Bad phrasing on my part. I meant before he got his team mates powers in Genesis, and after he lost his team mates powers in Genesis and so on.

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Originally posted by Enyalus All I know is that the Elder was powered by the telepathic or spiritual backing of his entire race. Vulcan was able to see where the energy was coming from, and cut him off from it.


It doesn't have to be telepathic or spiritual. Just saying.....

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Originally posted by Enyalus Vulcan's shown the ability to manipulate more kinds of energy than Dr. Light has. And has a higher energy output. He wins.


He is more versatile, but I don't know about being more powerful.

Although I do believe Vulcan wins this fight, depending on the Dr. Light.


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He has also shown the ability to siphon or straight out manipulate the energy of others, while they're using it. When he fought the Imperial Guard. So Light loses here.

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