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Solid Snake vs Sam Fisher

3 fight locations

1. Artic Base
2. Massive camp in grasslands
3. Huge ship

It is a battle of stealth.

Gear: They have this gear for all fights

Gun, Knife, Camoflauge that suit each environment.

Both people are in their prime.

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Done before.

Snake wins.

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Done before yes, but not under the same circumstances!

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1. Sam
2. 5/10
3. Snake

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1) Snake.
2) Snake.
3) Snake.
And each time like 50/10.
Seriously. Rip Snake's hands off then its a fair fight.

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Out of curiosity, how many bullets through the head has Snake survived?

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None, though he did survive a sniper bullet (Happened in original MGS, don't know if it was integrated into Remake) in the chest.

Regardless, what makes you think Sam wins?

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Originally posted by C. C. Cowgirl!
Out of curiosity, how many bullets through the head has Snake survived?

None. 'cause he dodges them with ease. Why?

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None. 'cause he dodges them with ease. Why?

I find it pretty obvious. I was curious. I even wrote that I was. I guess you missed that part of my post

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None, though he did survive a sniper bullet (Happened in original MGS, don't know if it was integrated into Remake) in the chest.

Regardless, what makes you think Sam wins?

Snake not being bullet-proof would be my primary reason.

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Done to death. Solid Snake is just higher in the their tier list. Sam Fisher is held back by realism.

Granted, it would help to be more specific as to which 'gun' their given, because Snake by MGS4 has customizable guns. That, and just his Octocamo is perfect for virtually any environment, and it makes him untraceable by night vision or infrared. Snake has a 10/10 tech advantage. That alone makes it more of a stomp than it already had been by putting them both in their primes. Even in hand to hand I've yet to see Sam do with Krav Maga what Snake can do with CQC (in his physically aged state, mind you).

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Done to death. Solid Snake is just higher in the their tier list. Sam Fisher is held back by realism.

Granted, it would help to be more specific as to which 'gun' their given, because Snake by MGS4 has customizable guns. That, and just his Octocamo is perfect for virtually any environment, and it makes him untraceable by night vision or infrared. Snake has a 10/10 tech advantage. That alone makes it more of a stomp than it already had been by putting them both in their primes. Even in hand to hand I've yet to see Sam do with Krav Maga what Snake can do with CQC (in his physically aged state, mind you).

I think Sam is pushing his 60s. Wouldn't exactly call him youth incarnate either

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I think Sam is pushing his 60s. Wouldn't exactly call him youth incarnate either

By MGS4, Snake is the equivilant of an 80 year old man running around a battlefield. Except he does ridiculously stupid crap like fight bullet timers and running through giant microwaves.

Seriously, physically, Snake (Unless this is MGS4 Snake) is far and away beyond Sam, especially during Twin Snakes, when he beats up people who dodge automatic machine guns, and does backflips over missiles and stupid stuff like that.

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I think Sam is pushing his 60s. Wouldn't exactly call him youth incarnate either

Perhaps.

To this day, Fisher would be about 52-53. MGS4, which takes place in 2014 IIRC, has Snake at age 42(based on the date of Les Enfants Terribles, 1972), putting Fisher at ~62 during said year. Today, Snake would be about 37 (MGS2 happens to take place in 09 I believe).

But anyway, the point I'm getting at is that it's kind of irrelevent, seeing as Snake by MGS4 has aged at least ten to twenty years beyond Sam already because of his genetic structure through his means of creation. As they say, age is only a number, and that applies in the worst possible scenario for Snake, and yet he's still picked for these kinds of missions.

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Snake not being bullet-proof would be my primary reason.

Not like Fisher's any moreso. Proabably less if it had to be decided.

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By MGS4, Snake is the equivilant of an 80 year old man running around a battlefield. Except he does ridiculously stupid crap like fight bullet timers and running through giant microwaves.

Seriously, physically, Snake (Unless this is MGS4 Snake) is far and away beyond Sam, especially during Twin Snakes, when he beats up people who dodge automatic machine guns, and does backflips over missiles and stupid stuff like that.

He's still not protected from a bullet to the head, no matter how much stronger he is. This is a matter of who sees who first, and in 1st fight, I have full confidence in Sam.

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Thats stupid. How can Sam react fatser than Snake when Snake dodges ****ing superspeed blows from a sword.

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That is stupid. Whoever said Sam > Snake in reactiontime should be slapped.

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Originally posted by C. C. Cowgirl!
He's still not protected from a bullet to the head, no matter how much stronger he is. This is a matter of who sees who first, and in 1st fight, I have full confidence in Sam.

In the 1st Fight? Well, that would depend. For example, Snake beat an expert sniper who was dressed in white in the middle of a snow storm....

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Not to mention after that he obviously got better.

Snake clearly wins.

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In the 1st Fight? Well, that would depend. For example, Snake beat an expert sniper who was dressed in white in the middle of a snow storm....