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she was described as hacking into him and she lost party because the charge of her power sword ran out. After that, it wasn't much of a contest as she was sliced in half
Kenobi wasn't a Soresu practitioner here, and wasn't as experienced as his later self (duh). He beat Maul through circumstance and taking advantage of Maul's arrogance. And he was only competing with Maul on the Zabrak's level momentarily while tapping his rage. I can definitely see him losing this.
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For a considerable time in that fight, when Kenobi and Maul duel alone, Kenobi seemingly has the upper hand. He goes as far as splitting Maul's lightsaber and putting him to the ground. He was pushing him back. Maul had to intervene with the force in order to subdue Kenobi. We never see any glaring difference between the two and their lightsaber skills.
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This "circumstance", meaning he went on the offensive and capitalized on Maul's arrogance. His victory was no fluke. And Maul's fight with Mighella was hilarious. Kenobi would win this rather easily.
the circumstance meaning, while maul was toying with him, he was able to take his masters lightsaber and cut him in half, i would presume. It was a fluke
Wow, so I'm assuming by that statement you meaned he slipped and accidentally forced pulled his masters lightsaber to himself, flipped over Maul and then slipped again, cutting him in half?
That fellow must be accident prone.
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You misinterpreted me. I said Kenobi contended with Maul "on the Zabrak's level." But that was while he was tapping his rage. Maul then proceeded to Force push him over the side. If Maul hadn't been arrogant and overconfident, he could have "killed" Kenobi. But Kenobi capitalized on Maul's stupidity had killed him in turn. Kenobi did NOT defeat Maul in combat, as Maul did to Qui-Gon, he defeated him via clever use of the Force and being opportunistic.
Saying Kenobi legitimately defeated Maul in single combat is like saying Palpatine defeated Plagueis in single combat. One got the jump on the other while his guard was down, and one got the jump on the other while his guard was down.
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Relative to a strict one vs. one match as we'd have it here, yes. He had Qui-Gon Jinn, a Jedi Master and legendary swordsman, fighting alongside him - or for him - at almost every step of the way. After being outmatched the entire duel even with Jinn's assistance he takes on Maul alone and gets thrown into a pit.
It isn't "unfair," it just isn't really relevant to the Versus forum. Anakin crippled Mace Windu, Han Solo killed the Emperor. Surely you won't argue those as legitimate victories here, because the "victor" in those situations didn't actually defeat anyone in personal combat.
One that we don't take into account here. No CIS.
Nonsense. I suggest you skip to 4:07 in the video posted and watch very closely as Maul throws Obi-Wan over the side of a pit, where the Padawan proceeds to hang on for dear life, completely at Maul's mercy.
So is Obi-Wan.
Prove it.
This is when he is tapping into his rage, enhancing his abilities with the dark side. The NEC makes it clear, through Obi-Wan's own testimonial, that Maul took advantage of this by feeding off of his hatred.
Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon together couldn't beat Maul. Qui-Gon alone couldn't beat him, Obi-Wan alone - even with the added advantage of his rage - couldn't beat him.
Then surely you don't call Maul using the force in a saber fight fair either, if we're going to go that route. That was his only advantage once Obiwan tapped into his rage. In my opinion Maul's arrogance and his force using cancel each other out, and make it a legitimate victory.
Again, in a pure lightsaber battle, Obiwan not only held his own but pushed Maul back. Maul had to use the force to gain an advantage.
Read above.
Not in saber combat.
Lol. Prove Obiwan is "a hell of a lot weaker than maul."
Where was the advantage exactly faunus? We've all seen the fight. Where is the advantage? Oh you mean the force push? Gotcha.
Or how about the fact that Obiwan did better alone than he did with Maul? And it took Maul to use a force maneuver during the saber bout to gain any kind of advantage.
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