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X-men vs New X-men

In an alternate reality, During the events of X-men 2, William Stryker uses his son to cast illusions in the minds of the X-men teams, turning them against each other.


Original X-men

- Cyclops
- Beast
- Storm
- Jean Grey (Full potential not realized)
- Wolverine



New X-men

- Rogue
- Iceman
- Pyro
- Colossus
- Nightcrawler

Fight takes place outside the X-mansion.



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Unrelated, but I've always loved this picture. A tribute to the real original X-men team (well swap Beast for Wolvie, but he looks badass here).

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With your teams, Team 1 wrecks.

As for calling them the "Original X-Men" that's pretty wrong.


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With your teams, Team 1 wrecks.

As for calling them the "Original X-Men" that's pretty wrong.


This is movie versus.



Iceman, Rogue, Wolverine, Pyro, and Colossus are all "new" to the academy.

Beast, Cyclops, Storm, and Jean Grey are "veterans" that have been around the academy for a while.


Again, this is movie vesus, not comic.


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That pic is awesome Placidity, but you need to take out Wolvie, and switch Nightcrawler with Beast.

As for this fight, the New X-Men take a solid majority.

Between Iceman and Pyro, Cyclops goes down, and Storm is taken down as well. Beast would go down, and possibly Jean. They could even slow down Logan.

Nightcrawler would also be a nightmare for either Storm, Jean, and Cyclops, maybe even Beast.

Rogue could make herself useful by either taking on an ability of one of her teammates, or taking the power of someone who got taken down from the other team. Her and Colossus running around the battlefield armored up would be hazardous to the other teams health.

Colossus by himself is a huge threat to T-1, they have virtually nothing to take him down besides Wolverine, and with things like trees and random objects outside the mansion, Pete could ko or bfr Logan, if Sabretooth could do it, Colossus should have no problems.

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Re: X-men vs New X-men

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Original X-men

- Cyclops
- Beast
- Storm
- Jean Grey (Full potential not realized)
- Wolverine

New X-men

- Rogue
- Iceman
- Pyro
- Colossus
- Nightcrawler

Fight takes place outside the X-mansion.


The New X-Men team, more times than naught. If NC takes out Jean early, the others can't do shit to stop him.


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Re: X-men vs New X-men

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Originally posted by Placidity
In an alternate reality, During the events of X-men 2, William Stryker uses his son to cast illusions in the minds of the X-men teams, turning them against each other.


Original X-men

- Cyclops
- Beast
- Storm
- Jean Grey (Full potential not realized)
- Wolverine



New X-men

- Rogue
- Iceman
- Pyro
- Colossus
- Nightcrawler

Fight takes place outside the X-mansion.



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Unrelated, but I've always loved this picture. A tribute to the real original X-men team (well swap Beast for Wolvie, but he looks badass here).

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In the movie Rogue joined the x-men around the same time as wolverine...


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Re: Re: X-men vs New X-men

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In the movie Wolverine joined the x-men around the same time as wolverine...


Are you drunk again, Steve?


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Re: Re: X-men vs New X-men

Jean stopped NC from Teleporting in X2 (when she and Storm first found him) - something to think about.

Also, Cyclops has a significant range advantage against Iceman/Pyro. His attack is also much quicker, and if you consider X-men Origins, also the most devastating with a large area of effect.

Beast is also more experienced than any of the new X-men (maybe except Nightcrawler), and he is more agile than Yoda (see how fast he comes in and pwns Mags). I can see him doing some agility shit and taking out Pyro or Iceman too.

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In the movie Rogue joined the x-men around the same time as wolverine...


She attended Xavier's Institute, she didn't join the X-men until the third movie, where she left soon after anyway.

In X2, Wolverine fought along side the big boys while Rogue was told to stay in the jet with the other kiddies stick out tongue

I guess you could say Pyro was never an X-men.


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The problem, as i see it, is that the main x-men team was crap. for a bunch of people that are supposedly very well trained, they sure got their asses kicked a whole lot.

i'd give the new team the edge. better displays of power imo.


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The problem, as i see it, is that the main x-men team was crap. for a bunch of people that are supposedly very well trained, they sure got their asses kicked a whole lot.

i'd give the new team the edge. better displays of power imo.


Hmm I would agree Storm and Jean were noobs in X1. When faced against Toad, they couldn't do anything lol.

But in X2, Jean shows she can disable NC

And in X3 Storm shows she can fly, launch lightning bolts, and do that spinning kick ass move.
Storm can also summon high winds against the other team that even Sabretooth couldn't fight through in X1. Hm how about hail or something.

Cyclops is skilled, theres no doubt about it. He has very good accuracy - shown in X1 training: shooting down the multiple discs quickly, and also H2H skills in X2, taking out the guards. IMO, theres a good chance he can down Pyro and Iceman, and they ain't getting back up.


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Jean didn't stop him, he was porting around that church like crazy, practically shouting because of the echo factor, and praying in german. He was porting so fast that Xavier couldn't lock on to his mind till he stopped in the church. And while he was porting aorund like a mad man, Storm blasted one of the ceiling beams he was on, he fell and Jean caught him before he hit the ground.

I don't consider Origin a good showing for Cyclops beams, they showed heat, which his beams don't produce, and unless he takes his visor off, then he's not getting that area effect.

You also have no idea of the full range of Iceman and Pyro, for all we know, Iceman's beam attack could be quick and extremely far reaching, but since he just used it against Pyro, we don't know.

As for Beast, he is indeed the most agile after Nightcrawler, but he has to get close to Pyro or Iceman to be effective, and with large balls of fire, and beams of ice, I doubt that happening. And the only reason he pwned Magneto, is because he was so focused on torturing Wolverine, he didn't pay attention to Beast, Magneto's arrogant like that.

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Hmm I would agree Storm and Jean were noobs in X1. When faced against Toad, they couldn't do anything lol.

But in X2, Jean shows she can disable NC

And in X3 Storm shows she can fly, launch lightning bolts, and do that spinning kick ass move.
Storm can also summon high winds against the other team that even Sabretooth couldn't fight through in X1. Hm how about hail or something.

Cyclops is skilled, theres no doubt about it. He has very good accuracy - shown in X1 training: shooting down the multiple discs quickly, and also H2H skills in X2, taking out the guards. IMO, theres a good chance he can down Pyro and Iceman, and they ain't getting back up.


cyclops has skills, but his reflexes were horrible. it was easy to get the drop on him in the movies.

storm was all right, though i dunno if she'd be able to put down a whole team. jean's powers were fluctuating like crazy.


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Jean didn't stop him, he was porting around that church like crazy, practically shouting because of the echo factor, and praying in german. He was porting so fast that Xavier couldn't lock on to his mind till he stopped in the church. And while he was porting aorund like a mad man, Storm blasted one of the ceiling beams he was on, he fell and Jean caught him before he hit the ground.


So you don't think he would've wanted to teleport away after Jean caught him? Just earlier he was telling them to GTFO. He was like "please don't hurt me" or something after he got caught.

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You also have no idea of the full range of Iceman and Pyro, for all we know, Iceman's beam attack could be quick and extremely far reaching, but since he just used it against Pyro, we don't know.



Its safe to assume Cyclops' beams can travel further... but thats not the main point, the beams also travel much faster meaning unless you are uber quick like NC, you'd probably get hit.


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Yeah, he said that because Storm almost struck him with lightning, the bolt hit like a few inches from his foot and knocked him towards the floor, Jean caught him, and after that he was scared of them, so he decided to talk it out.

I will say that his beam travels faster though.

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