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Smile Starship Enterprise vs. X-jet

Fight takes place in a huge atmosphere similar to Earth's except it is 3X as deep/high for maneuvering. X-jet gets Storm and Magneto as passengers to help offensive/defensive capabilities (remember for example what Storm did when military jets were following them. Also assume that Magneto has a good ability to manipulate electromagnetic spectrum stuff in case that matters even though we never saw that much in the movies).

Feel free to tweak/add any other x-men/villans in the ship if you think it will help in any manner.

Oh, let's say the Enterprise can maneuver outside the atmosphere into space for up to 1 minute at a time every 10 minutes, but they can not use offensive force unless they are in the atmosphere at least 1 minute beforehand (otherwise they can easily avoid lightning/tornadoes and attack from a distance which isn't' fair).
Scenario 2: If you think it is a spite thread for the Enterprise to win, then add the Fantastic Four flying ship to the x-jet along with Johnny Strorm flying solo.


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The Enterprise is way bigger than the X-Jet and has superior fire power.


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Re: Starship Enterprise vs. X-jet

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Fight takes place in a huge atmosphere similar to Earth's except it is 3X as deep/high for maneuvering. X-jet gets Storm and Magneto as passengers to help offensive/defensive capabilities (remember for example what Storm did when military jets were following them. Also assume that Magneto has a good ability to manipulate electromagnetic spectrum stuff in case that matters even though we never saw that much in the movies).

Feel free to tweak/add any other x-men/villans in the ship if you think it will help in any manner.

Oh, let's say the Enterprise can maneuver outside the atmosphere into space for up to 1 minute at a time every 10 minutes, but they can not use offensive force unless they are in the atmosphere at least 1 minute beforehand (otherwise they can easily avoid lightning/tornadoes and attack from a distance which isn't' fair).
Scenario 2: If you think it is a spite thread for the Enterprise to win, then add the Fantastic Four flying ship to the x-jet along with Johnny Strorm flying solo.


The ST crew transport everyone into space from the other side of the planet. /the end.


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The Tard is correct.


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The ST crew transport everyone into space from the other side of the planet. /the end.



agreed


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Picard's Enterprise could bully Marvel Earth if it wanted.

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The Enterprise is a Galaxy Class Starship.

The Blackbird (X-Men's jet) is just a jet.

Serious butt rape occurs with the Federation on the winning side.


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Obviously, the Enterprise (NX-01) is missing lots of key technologies that most people are familiar with. Depends how late in the show you want to use the vessel.


Transportors...that's iffy.

Weapons? Iffy as well. Later, the pulse cannons were upgraded to much more powerful phase cannons. That could be a big difference.



Still, all it takes is Magento doing his thing. We know Magneto can lift things as large and as heavy as the Golden Gate Bridge. The enterprise would be much lighter and smaller. Crush? Yup.


Storm could do super lightening bolts. The polarized hull plating shouldn't be able to stand up to the lightening getting to the systems and frying things.


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That ship wasn't in a film. So it's either Kirk's ship or one of Picard's. Either way, transporters from the other side of the planet FTW.


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Shit, I forgot about Magneto, he could solo here.


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Shit, I forgot about Magneto, he could solo here.
No.

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Why not?


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Magneto cannot destroy the ship instantly. It's made of metal far superior to anything on Earth. Not saying he can't effect it. But he can't kill the ship before he gets blown up. Data can react far faster than Eric can. Data, the ship's computer, Picard, and Geordi are all smarter both tactically and technically. Your putting thousands of minds against one. Magneto has no way of blocking any of the Enterprise' weapons. Not top mention Magneto would be fighting from a distance farther than he can overcome.

Magneto soloing the Enterprise? Stop it.


Bring in Dark Phoenix.

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So if Magneto decides to grab the ship and push it away, alter its course, damage it in some way, he can't?

Made of metal far superior to anything on Earth. OK, I can see this is gonna take the same route as the lightsaber versus adamantium debate. I'm out.


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A couple thoughts: If the x-jet cloaking is as good as a Klingon ship, it may enable them to get close enough to the Enterprise for Magneto to crush them (I do believe he could).
Also, as I think about it, I am not sure how well an Enterprise can fly in gravity/atmosphere compared to empty space. I am not sure if this would affect things much anyway.
I was also trying to extrapolate electromagnetic powers for Magneto in order to see if guys thought he could affect sensor range, teleporter capabilities, communication, and maybe even phaser beams.


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That ship wasn't in a film. So it's either Kirk's ship or one of Picard's. Either way, transporters from the other side of the planet FTW.



That's why it's important to specify.

Enterpise D, B, C, etc....those are how you specify which one is which.

Just plain ol' "Enterprise" is the NX-01...at least amoung trekkies.


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Why not?


Transporters, that's why. Also range and superior firepower.


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with the exception of Chris Pine Kirk, Shatner Kirk and Picard's Enterprise too damn easy


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with the exception of Chris Pine Kirk, Shatner Kirk and Picard's Enterprise too damn easy


Pine and Shatner would have comparable ships.


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Pine and Shatner would have comparable ships.


with respect, i disagree, Pine's ship didn't show me much even though i am a treekie


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