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galactusischere
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Mandrakk runs a gauntlet

Mandrakk from DC runs a gauntlet.
Mandrakk doest not get any rest and repleneshing time after each fight. CIS and PIS are off.
Gautnelt:
1- Bat-Mite
2- Phoenix of the white Crown
3- Galactus(don't turn this into a phoenix vs Galactus thread..)
4- Eternity, Infinity and Death
5- Mad Jim Jaspers
6- Oblivion
7- Abraxas(please don't turn this into a oblivion vs abraxas thread)
8- Emperor Joker
9- Crisis on Infinite Earths Anti-Monitor
10- WF Mxy
11- HoM Wanda
12- Elaine
13- Primal Monitor
14- Beyonder
how far does he get?

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Who the hell is Manrakk? Is he a man with huge manboobs (hence, man-rack?)


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Originally posted by Endless Mike
Who the hell is Manrakk? Is he a man with huge manboobs (hence, man-rack?)


shit.. good call
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This list is out of order. How is HOM Wanda higher than Mxy, MJJ, and EJ?
Mandrakk wither stops at 10 or stops at 13. I'd put Primal Monitor above Beyonder since PM was either = or greater to the Presence.


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This list is out of order. How is HOM Wanda higher than Mxy, MJJ, and EJ?
Mandrakk wither stops at 10 or stops at 13. I'd put Primal Monitor above Beyonder since PM was either = or greater to the Presence.

HoM wanda was almost LT level.
higher than all of those.

you don't get any higher than Presence, its impossible. PM might be equal to the Presence, same as Beyonder

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HoM wanda was almost LT level.
higher than all of those.

you don't get any higher than Presence, its impossible. PM might be equal to the Presence, same as Beyonder

No, there are statement to prove otherwise.


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No, there are statement to prove otherwise.

HoM wanda part of my statement or PM and Presence one??

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HoM wanda was almost LT level.
higher than all of those.

you don't get any higher than Presence, its impossible. PM might be equal to the Presence, same as Beyonder

HOM Wanda is LT level based on what?

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Originally posted by galactusischere
HoM wanda part of my statement or PM and Presence one??

PM and Presence


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Originally posted by galactusischere
HoM wanda part of my statement or PM and Presence one??

The Primal Monitor sent a probe into the DCU and discovered story, story which included the Presence. The Presence is just a very large germ to the PM depending on how you look at it or the Presence and the PM are one in the same.

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The Primal Monitor sent a probe into the DCU and discovered story, story which included the Presence. The Presence is just a very large germ to the PM depending on how you look at it or the Presence and the PM are one in the same.


hmm..ok u probably know more about DC than me.
but how is PM more powerful than the supreme being of DC?
HoM wanda was messing with the 616 universe with mere thoughts.
She even effortlessly destroyed Galactus.
Who in marvel below LT can do that?

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It depends if you view Presence as the creator of DCU. PM certainly isn't. He is the one who noticed it and send a probe to monitor what it was.

If you view Presence as the creator then, PM>Presence
IF you view Presence as a omnipotent being then you can say they are the same thing
Though, Presence pretty much admitted he is shaped by other forces stronger then him.


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It depends if you view Presence as the creator of DCU. PM certainly isn't. He is the one who noticed it and send a probe to monitor what it was.

If you view Presence as the creator then, PM>Presence
IF you view Presence as a omnipotent being then you can say they are the same thing
Though, Presence pretty much admitted he is shaped by other forces stronger then him.


DC hierarcy is alot more confusing that Marvel hierarchy..

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so PM wuz outside DCU?

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hmm..ok u probably know more about DC than me.
but how is PM more powerful than the supreme being of DC?
HoM wanda was messing with the 616 universe with mere thoughts.
She even effortlessly destroyed Galactus.
Who in marvel below LT can do that?

Think of the PM and Presence in these terms:
The Presence is the supreme fish in a pond while the PM is like a man throwing fish food into the pond. The PM isn't part of the DCU proper, not even to the extent that the Presence is external, he's outside of creation: he's on the level of the reader. Indeed the PM is the reader (or writer, its not that clear).

Any decent high end reality warper could blink out Galactus. MJJ certainly could, so could EJ and Mxy. Hell WF Mxy was killing the Spectre's alternate versions for fun.

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DC is messed up. Now we got Nekron as well. Just what we need.
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so PM wuz outside DCU?

Yup. Primal Monitor is like a never ending void, inside it there is a germ that he discovered one day. This germ was DCU(everything in it). He sent a probe in there(which is Mandrakk). The same Mandrakk who was later eating DCU.


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Originally posted by galactusischere
DC hierarcy is alot more confusing that Marvel hierarchy..

No argument there. It helps that Vertigo and DC are now mostly separate now.

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Vertigo and DC aren't separated.


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Vertigo and DC aren't separated.

They don't cross over as much anymore. Except for Zatanna and Phantom Stranger for some reason.

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