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Ozymandias makes his way to the Matrix. The rules and laws do not apply to him, however. He retains all of his superhuman abilities he displayed in Watchmen. The Matrix combatants have all of their abilities and are each in their standard clothing. No weapons. Ozymandias is in his standard clothing(not his armor), gets fully healed and rested after each fight. How far does he get?
Guantlet
1.Trinity
2.Morpheus
3.Seraph
4.Neo
5.Agent Smith
Things to Consider
*Trinity and Morpheus greatly improved between the first two films.
*Neo probably wasn't going all out against Seraph in The Matrix Reloaded, but Seraph did say in the third film that he had beaten Smith before(to which Smith agreed).
*Neo and Smith are only as powerful as they were in the original film before getting the upgrades.
*I think it's safe to say that everyone here is fairly more skilled in martial arts than the Comedian.
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Stops at 4. Seraph would give him trouble but he'd win due to physical stats. Though, I'm not sure about this 'cause it's theorized that Seraph is a past "One".
WHY IN THE ALBINO TWIN PHUCK, IS AGENT SMITH AFTER NEO?
Ah yes. Good ol' Matrix character debates. Always fun.
They all have an inherent advantage over Ozymandias in that they are all programmed to mastery level of every martial arts. While Ozymandias might (and might not) have a speed and strength advantage over the human characters, the programmes are vastly more powerful. Seraph held off M2 Neo in the fight and he is miles ahead of the human characters. Seraph and Smith would both wipe the floor with Ozymandias. The others, from a higher skill level, would put up an extremely good fight as well. You only need to look at M1 Neo's fight against Smith in the subway to see the strength of the human characters...While in the headlock he manages to jump high enough and with enough force to smash Smith through the concrete ceiling of the subway tunnel.
Fight choreographer preferred that style, most likely.
Still, Tank said he was loading Neo with multiple programs and he had been going at it all day. In the Morpheous/Neo dojo fight scene, they do mix it up a bit using different styles, though Lawrence being fat and old looked especially ackward.
Because we have multiple instances proving that an operator need only upload a program into someone in the Matrix and they're instantly skilled in it. eg Trinity says something like "I need to fly a Hewie helicopter", a few seconds later, she knows how.
Do you think the upload would just be the bare minimum, ie he trained Neo in the equivalent of a white-belt in Karate, considering they're at war with the Matrix. Also pretty sure it's said somewhere that the programs provide either expertise or decades of experience instantly to the uploaded person. Can't recall for sure though.
Because Woo Ping's primary martial art was Kung-fu and because it looks best on screen compared to less elaborate and thus less audience friendly styles.
Has no bearing on the character's programmed abilities.
More like a dozen or more fighting forms. Every was never stated. I wouldn't say that. Neo could have been holding back and likely was as we saw what he could truly do in Revolutions. No one is wiping the floor with anyone. No one is wiping the floor with anyone. Veidt hits people with comparable power to the Agents. Just because they know more styles(we're assuming) doesn't mean they're more skilled. Veidt tooled everyone he fought in H2H combat even when he was outnumbered. ......and your homework assignment is to look at Watchmen.
Fair enough? Guess what, Veidt has hops too. Look specifically at .16/.33 seconds in. It may not be as high as Neo or Morpheus' jumps but who's saying he was putting in supreme effort like they were?
He was programmed with Jiu-Jitsu in a matter of seconds and his training went on for "10 hours straight" according to Tank...Equates to considerably more than a dozen.
I would...Never saw Ozymandias punching through a reinforced concrete support column like Smith did.
Coulda, woulda, shoulda. Neo was more powerful in Revolutions than he was in Reloaded...Shown by the fact that at the end of Reloaded he was able to manipulate machines in the real world...A further evolution of his ability.
No...He doesn't. He's certainly powerful in human standards but Agents were designed to be far in advance of what even Morpheus, Trinity etc were able to produce and they had the advantage of knowing that the laws in the Matrix governing strength and speed could be bent or broken.
They clearly show vastly more skill than Veidt does...He fought 3 people...A drunk and middle aged Comedian did better against him than Rorschach and Nite-Owl (who by the time they fight is retired and out of shape). So they were hardly opponents on the level of Neo, Smith and Seraph...
As a human it would take years for Ozymandias to master new martial arts...It takes a Matrix character seconds...They clearly have a vast advantage in skill and mastery.
Don't patronise me...I wouldn't have commented if I hadn't seen Watchmen. I have seen it several times. Facts are, though, that the Matrix characters would school Ozymandias to a ridiculous extent.
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