Thor isnt skillfull enough *fanboys begin to stand up * WAIT!.. Thousands of years of experience of being an average brawler doesn't make you anything but an average brawler. And the Achilles powerset is rather beastly in melee combat situations, divine grace is uber.
Ultimately, Thor. Achilles' Grace, however, would give Thor fits, but Thor can fight for days on end, and can tank brawling attacks like nobody's business. Achilles' will put up a good fight, however, and Thor would likely appreciate that -- he'd have someone else to play grab-ass with other than Herc...
Also, while Achilles is relatively unkillable, it is not yet determined how long he properly can battle (hours, certainly, but days? Weeks? Does he properly need rest, like Diana would at some point? Unknown, at this point...)
Thor: 6-7/10 [8-9/10 if it is determined that Achilles can't go on for days at a time, continuously), but it would take quite a while. Achilles' wins come from Thor underestimating him, or overestimating his own combat prowess against someone who has the ability to evade most H2H attacks, as well as many other attacks.
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Last edited by tideoftime on Dec 23rd, 2010 at 01:40 AM
i like this answer. As well as the endurance issue, have we seen the olypmian display thor level strength yet either? I dont think so but i only read the rise of the olympian arc.
He smacked around Eradicator like he was nothing. And fought Geo-Force who had Terra's powers/gravity control. The only reason they stopped was because of Geo-Forces situation with his country.
I think Thor beats his face in the moment he gets his hands on him. Olympian is deprived of his spear and I haven't seen anything from him to make me thing he can put Thor down physically.
His best hope is too keep dancing out of Thor's hands. Which I don't think we'll last once Thor catches on.
From the fight with Geo-Force (who has become close to or even top tier) Achilles is very durable. Geo-Force is connected to earth now and is class 100.
He's at least as durable as Wonder Woman, and can survive specific killing attacks that would kill her (such as recovering from being stabbed through the heart/chest-to-back, after being down just a moment).
Also, he was "Class 100"* before Geoforce, if I recall correctly, in an issue of WW where he tore that gi-normous serpent-creature-thingy in half; without his purpose/duty being clouded, he's clearly at least in the Donna Troy/Kory range of strength, and likely stronger. Whether he is properly in WW's, Thor's, SM's, et al, league is yet to be determined, but it wouldn't surprise me that in years to come he is demonstrated as being in their relative "class", strength-wise.
*(Rant: I *HATE* when people use the old Marvel scaling -- it's all but worthless outside of it's 80's origins, and incredibly inaccurate for most super-strong characters; hell, it was inaccurate for many instances of physical strength for characters even back then... Rant concluded...)
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I didn't read the fight with Geo-Force. All I remember is his fight with Diana and me not being impressed once she figured out his game. She outmaneuvered him, and almost choked him out.
He took a flying slam from Wonder Woman, but that hardly means he can stand up to a beating from Thor.
Geo Force is now Top Tier? He got an upgrade? I haven't been reading the Outsiders for like a year now.
I've seen absolutely no reason why Achilles could win this.
idk about this, achillies is faster than wonder woman and can dodge thor all day while landing blows, his spear can also cut through any object, it easily cuts wonder woman.
achillies is also very durable he has wonder woman level durability
imo this is how the fight goes down
thor throws a punch,
achillies dodges and stabs thor through the brain.
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