Hopefully the moderator will allow this because both characters are seen in novels and animae (HALO).
Master Chief attacks Sauron (with the one ring) on the slopes of Mt. Doom in full view of the Army of Men and Elves. In order to keep it even, Master Chief is only given an Elite Energy Blade and no shields on his armor. Both do not have a clue of the others combat abilities.
So has Sauron met his match? Or does he curbstomp him?
Considering ive only watched Halo Legends for feats for Chief, id say it depends. If Chief gets in close BEFORE getting ***** slapped by Saurons mace, then he wins. But i think one hit from that mace will kill him, armor or no.
I was just pointing out that Master Chief showed up in 2 of the short films and said that it was up to you if you allowed short films in the MVF, to count.
But, I believe I got my answer because you re-opened.
That said, Master Chief wins this, easily, because he has an energy sword and his "plain" armor will be impossible to cut through, by Sauron.
Energy swords slice through the Mark VI armor like butter and the Mark VI armor can stand up to several high caliber rounds before giving way. Additionally, John-117 weighs over 1000 lbs in his armor and is tall enough to not be completely eclipsed by Sauron's size. Additionally, John-117 is stronger than an Ent, more agile than a a High Elf, and more durable than any single character in the movies (surviving atmosphereic re-entry in a pod, which would have so many G's that it would splatter the unmodified regular humans.
Strength: Gotta got to Master Chief.
Durability: Definitely Master Chief. Sauron has nothing that will hurt Master Chief.
Intelligence: Definitely Sauron as he is a Demi-God...but he was outsmarted by clueless, plain, and kind hobbits...so he's book smart but is pretty dang stupid in strategy.
Weapons: Master Chief. He can make mince-meat out of Sauron, very quickly, because his energy sword is JUST like a lightsaber: super heated gases contained in a plasma blade force field type of thingie. In fact, the description of an energy sword is so much like a lightsabers that you might as well call it a fancy lightsaber without a focusing crystal. It should cut right through Sauron's big arse sword, like butter.
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Lol yeah Master Chief destroys, giving him the energy sword is overkill, maybe if he was going at Sauron with his bare fists it would be slightly more even, but still I think Chief would take it.
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Sauron only used his Mega B*tch Slap attack there. It's not a KO move like Mace Hammer.
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All I can see is Sauron doing his "hoo buja monkeeeeey!" thing that he did right after his finger was cut off.
I'll see if I can find master chief in one of his films doing stuff.
Here's some awesome vids of John at work.
Here's a Spartan-II showing how strong they are...and it's a female Spartan.
Edit - The above vid does not show her throw a re-entry vessel like...30 meters. Dang. Well, she throws a re-entry vessel really far...n'stuff. She's not as uber as Master Chief, though, as Master Chief is as far above that Spartan-II as she is above the other elite units that accompanied her on that mission.
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Actually, I dont think it said what type of spartan she was. I was of the mind she was a spartan III. And not 30 meters, like, maybe 15 or 20. Impressive nonetheless. Chief will win if he gets close, but one hit from that mace will f**k Chief up, badly. Take that brute hitting that spartan, take half, add that, then hit him with it. Thats quite a bit of force hitting him, itll at least crush his rib cage and put bone splinters into his major organs. She survived maybe 5 minutes or less after that shot, and she couldnt move. Thats all it takes
Besides, if im right it was pretty much a suprise attack with only 5 spartans, and John really didnt do much, he lost to that Elite i think....
The gravity hammer can send a multi-ton vehicle flying through the air with a single hit.
Getting hurt from being hit with that is not a low point for durability.
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Oh no, its a massive boost to Chiefs impressiveocity for a spartan being able to survive a hit from one. Problem is, she couldnt move, she could barely speak, and she lived for maybe 5 minutes. Sauron was tossing those armored Numenoreans and elves around like ragdolls. His mace is about the LOTR equivalent of a gravity hammer imo.
And while yes, he is slow, that thing is huge. He has a longer reach, so if he manages to hit Chief, it aint gonna look good for Chief.
Knocking 150 pound people into the air < knocking vehicles into the air.
By far, my man.
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Anyways, its WAY more than 150 pounds. Think around 250-300 pound Numenoreans encased in 60-100 pounds of steel. Thats quite a bit.
Im giving the description from the books, not sure if thats allowed, since they were never described in the books and never shown next to anything other than each other.
Numenoreans are taller than your average man, and posses strength and skill far surpassing the others. They range from around 6'8-7'5
Elendil The Tall was 7'11 tall. They were all wearing plate armor and chain mail, with their weights, they weigh about as much as a small car.
It did not need to be stated which Spartan version she was: she was in the Mark VI armor. That particular design was worn exclusively by the Spartan II spartans.
And the mace? It wouldn't even come close to the power that that Brute had.
Why?
Because Brutes are far thicker and stronger than a human. Sauron was a large human, in the film, but there's no way he even remotely approaches 1500 lbs. His mace isn't anywhere near as massive as that giant gravity-hammer, either. The "handle" on the mace doesn't even come close, either. So there's these factors:
Lever arm: far longer on the gravity-hammer for the Brute.
Mass: The gravity hammer is many times more massive than the mace.
Strength of the user: The brute is obviously much stronger.
Speed: the Brute can obviously swing his much larger hammer much faster.
What happened to the Spartan II? She died from her wounds, but lived after the first blow due to her awesome armor and super-human strength and durability.
Additionally, Brutes are even stronger than it would appear: they come from a planet that has twice the gravity of Earth's. This is why they are so much stronger and faster, for their size, than if you enlarged a human to their size.
John didn't lose to any elites. He kicked ass an took names.
Over 1000lbs is much greater than 400lbs. And do not remember Sauron knocking around anyone but humans and elves.
Keep in mind that she did not flatten to the ground, like any human or elf would have done under such a blow. She acted as if she was just punched with a haymaker: not a giant gravity hammer blow.
And, I think the descriptions should be allowed as long as they don't contradict the movies.
I never saw a Numenorean get smacked aorund by Sauron in the film.
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