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Zeus vs 8th Day Juggernaut

H2H a la Zeus/Hulk fight. No BFR.

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Re: Zeus vs 8th Day Juggernaut

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H2H a la Zeus/Hulk fight. No BFR.
Juggernaut's Durability its incalculable superior than Hulk's amazing durability, i

f and only IF amped Zeus's punches don't mess with Juggernaut's enchantments(Thor's magical lightnings did tickled him.. stick out tongue ) I don't see how Zeus could hurt him... smokin'


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I think stalemate.


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No force field? Zeus beats him into the ground unless it's the one from Thor.


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No force field? Zeus beats him into the ground unless it's the one from Thor.
Where do you see no forcefields?


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Nowhere.

Which is why my post was directed at a scenario with no force field. It's a forgotten power by most writers unfortunately. 7 out of 10 times he wouldn't use it anymore.


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No force field? Zeus beats him into the ground unless it's the one from Thor.


No he doesn't. Even if Zeus is able to hurt him, Cain's healing factor will easily keep him alive and going as seen in a more recent issue. Unlike Hulk's healing factor, Juggernaut's is not wearing out.

Also, have you played MvC3?


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No he doesn't. Even if Zeus is able to hurt him, Cain's healing factor will easily keep him alive and going as seen in a more recent issue. Unlike Hulk's healing factor, Juggernaut's is not wearing out.

Also, have you played MvC3?


Zeus will no doubt be able to hurt him if the other avatars had the power. But you have a point about the healing factor. Still, it comes down to the portrayal. If it's on the level of the Juggernaut one shot, it'll keep him in the fight noticeably longer than the Hulk without a doubt -perhaps indefinitely- but he'll still get his ass knocked around the place. If it's a more reasonable portrayal or not taken consideration? Zeus puts him down. At least in imo.

Haven't gotten my copy yet. Why? How have you enjoyed it so far? Is Thor kicking ass?


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Zeus will no doubt be able to hurt him if the other avatars had the power. But you have a point about the healing factor. Still, it comes down to the portrayal. If it's on the level of the Juggernaut one shot, it'll keep him in the fight a fair bit longer than the Hulk without a doubt -perhaps indefinitely- but he'll still get his ass knocked around the place. If it's a more reasonable portrayal or not taken consideration? Zeus puts him down. At least in imo.

Haven't gotten my copy yet. Why? How have you enjoyed it so far? Is Thor kicking ass?


I'd have to disagree on him just getting knocked around like a rag doll. I think at the very least he'll stalemate him unless there is some form of BFR, he removes his actual invulnerability or finds a way to cut off his power source.

Thor is kind of slow, but I've found that if you get your opponent in the air, he can deal some damage. I'd like to try and make him one of my mains. That being said, I am not good at fighting games.


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8th day jugs wins 8/10 and I don't even know how Zeus is winning the 2 that I gave him.


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I'd have to disagree on him just getting knocked around like a rag doll. I think at the very least he'll stalemate him unless there is some form of BFR, he removes his actual invulnerability or finds a way to cut off his power source.

Thor is kind of slow, but I've found that if you get your opponent in the air, he can deal some damage. I'd like to try and make him one of my mains. That being said, I am not good at fighting games.


Zeus is a fair bit stronger. There would still be a gap -in Zeus' favor- even if we used the one that appeared in Thor (Still don't know why Jurgens believed he was amped).

If he has his force field on, Zeus won't be able to attack him directly (Not unless you believe he has the power to break it which I don't) and so Cain would be able to trade blows in a pseudo fashion. But going mano-a-mano? Not the smartest idea.

I can't wait to get my hands on it. I've never played with Thor yet (It's his first time in a fighting game) but if the Universe has any kind of fairness to it, I'll be awesome with him.

Eh, you'll get better. Play a few rounds and you'll get the hang of it. Get some friends over who are shit, and just dominate. It will greatly increase the appeal of the game. smile


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Thor is slow(LOLZERZ) and has range issues.

Hits like a truck though and can take an ass whooping before dropping.

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Zeus is a fair bit stronger. There would still be a gap -in Zeus' favor- even if we used the one that appeared in Thor (Still don't know why Jurgens believed he was amped).

If he has his force field on, Zeus won't be able to attack him directly (Not unless you believe he has the power to break it which I don't) and so Cain would be able to trade blows in a pseudo fashion. But going mano-a-mano? Not the smartest idea.

I can't wait to get my hands on it. I've never played with Thor yet (It's his first time in a fighting game) but if the Universe has any kind of fairness to it, I'll be awesome with him.

Eh, you'll get better. Play a few rounds and you'll get the hang of it. Get some friends over who are shit, and just dominate. It will greatly increase the appeal of the game. smile


I don't know, Juggernaut was created (from Stan Lee's standpoint) so that every character that held back could unleash on him. I think he would fair well in a fist fight, even against Zeus.

My type of games are FPS's. I've never been good at fighting games, though I still buy them and play them. I usually get destroyed online. I do better online in Mortal Kombat compared to Capcom games.


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I don't know, Juggernaut was created (from Stan Lee's standpoint) so that every character that held back could unleash on him. I think he would fair well in a fist fight, even against Zeus.

My type of games are FPS's. I've never been good at fighting games, though I still buy them and play them. I usually get destroyed online. I do better online in Mortal Kombat compared to Capcom games.


If only Stan Lee's original intentions mattered. Thor was created to be stronger than the strongest hero (Hulk=sad) and more powerful than any of them.

Like I said, if he goes blow for blow, he'd get manhandled just like Hulk. It's not a knock against Cain. Zeus' simply above heralds. Depending on his depiction when it comes to healing, he can stay in it unlike the Hulk. Perhaps indefinitely.

You'll get the hang of it.


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Thor is slow(LOLZERZ) and has range issues.

Hits like a truck though and can take an ass whooping before dropping.




Range issues? Really? Huh.

Figured as much.

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Lol.


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If only Stan Lee's original intentions mattered. Thor was created to be stronger than the strongest hero (Hulk=sad) and more powerful than any of them.

Like I said, if he goes blow for blow, he'd get manhandled just like Hulk. It's not a knock against Cain. Zeus' simply above heralds. Depending on his depiction when it comes to healing, he can stay in it unlike the Hulk. Perhaps indefinitely.

You'll get the hang of it.


As far as power wise, I think Thor is above Hulk. Maybe Hulk can pass him in lifting strength though, that will be left up to a writer until then.

To each his own I guess. I think 8th Day Juggernaut will have a much better fight than Hulk did.

I may get the hang of it to a degree, but I have someone on my friends list that I know I'll never be able to surpass.


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As far as power wise, I think Thor is above Hulk. Maybe Hulk can pass him in lifting strength though, that will be left up to a writer until then.

To each his own I guess. I think 8th Day Juggernaut will have a much better fight than Hulk did.

I may get the hang of it to a degree, but I have someone on my friends list that I know I'll never be able to surpass.


Thor > Hulk any day. Of course, to modern writers, strength counts for 95% of the fight. If they've decided a character is stronger, he wins the fight most of the time.

In terms of tanking hits? Of course. In terms of offensive capabilities? I disagree. Even in the Thor tie in levels, he wouldn't fair much better than the Hulk.

Sweep the leg.


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8th day jugs wins 8/10 and I don't even know how Zeus is winning the 2 that I gave him.
Carv I understand why you don't give zues the win over juggs(durability). But why juggs over zues? What can juggs to do him?


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