Oooo I thought people were building him up to be at his HP Levels from his latest showings against eradicator and the outsiders. Which IMO was pretty impressive and he seems to have his adaptive schtick back. So I thought people who rep DD since some were repping him to beat Mangog.. but maybe not. Would putting him up against Thanos be better
it would seem so. but until this arc comes to an end, and i see how he's beaten (because you know he will be) then i'm skeptical to place him on the same level as his H/P counterpart.
^ gog wars doomsday really wasn't that impressive. all he really did was beat a bunch of gogs (gogi?) who were WELL below superman-level in terms of stats. furthermore, i seem to recall it taking that version of doomsday decadeS to punch through a mile thick wall of granite (can you say weaksauce..?) tyrant wouldn't have too much of an issue with him, me thinks.
imo, hunter/prey and doomsday wars doomsday (which was essentially H/P doomsday with brainiac's intellect) are the only versions that could beat depowered tyrant. all others (with the *potential/possible/yet to be determined* exception of current doomsday) fail.
like i said in another thread, he nearly killed darkseid -on apokolips- with like 3-4 punches... and that was WAY before his [darkseid's] powerlevels had been watered down as they were in more current continuity (pre-FC.) IF tyrant could beat darkseid at all, he certainly couldn't do so in a couple punches, imo. that's pretty much the best gauge i have.
furthermore, when the doomsday wars arc is taken into account, you will find even more uber feats pertaining to H/P doomsday (owning orion/tanking the astro force, to name a few.)
Interesting points. However, I think one key factor is.. DS has pretty average durability. Nothing really to write home about, and he was hit from behind. Sure, even if he was facing DD, he still losses a h2h encounter. The fact is though, his back was turned, and as we know it real life.. that can make a huge difference. Regardless, DS showings against DD and Superman show he has really average durability.. especially against blunt force trauma. So using that as a gauge, is well, not enough for me to give DD the win against Tyrant.
Going back and forth with Superman isn't something I would put past Tyrant, in fact I would expect Tyrant to deal with Superman quiickly and efficiently. Same with running through a whole bunch of fodder GL's. You replace DD with Tyrant and have him face the HH that he did. HP DD could win, and maybe he would. But I don't think it would be with the ease Tyrant did. Much less then take on an amped prepped Thanos.
Thanos on the other hand.. has top notch durability. He decided to leave for fear of dying when he faced Tyrant. Mind you this was a amped and prepped Thanos. The same Thanos, who unamped, never once thought about leaving his fight with Odin. Which of course, was both blasting and punching at times. That seems to indicate to me at least, the power that Tyrant packs, which in comparsion to the DS showing.. I would say it was more impressive to beat an amped prepped Thanos than a DS who had his back turned. To say nothing of, seemingly to Thanos.. Tyrant was a bigger threat to his life than Odin. Odin vs. HP DD... I wouldn't put my money on HP DD.
At the end of the day.. I don't see HP beating Tyrant.. and certainly not in an all powers fight.
I think the problem is you don't get the point of the trans tier. Not everyone who beats heralds gets into skyfather, actually, I don't think killing any number of heralds at the same time should give you skyfather status by default.
Bentley it's you who doesn't understand how the tiers work or you haven't read Tyrant and his appearances. Many people, including me, consider Thanos to be Low-Mid Skyfather level. Guess what, Tyrant made an AMPED and PREPPED Thanos leave for fear of dying. IF regular Thanos could be low skyfatherish.. then what is an amped and prepped Thanos? Point is, an amped prepped Thanos left for fear of dying. An unamped Thanos who didn't prepped faced a High (peak) Skyfather in Odin.. and in a much longer fight never once thought about leaving or backing down. Yet against Tyrant, in a shorter period of time, and amped/prepped fled for his life. So your notion that he beat a whole bunch of heralds and that is it, is totally and completly false. We won't even get into his defeat of Galactus and how strong Galactus thought he was.. which again.. puts him above Skyfather level if we go by Thanos and Galactus. He beat more than mere heralds, and even then, beating peak heralds with ease... is nothing to turn your nose up at.
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