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Katsamoto & Maximus vs the Witch King & Lúrtz

The battle takes place in a meadow of a forrest. All are equipped with their standard armor and weapons. Who wins this duel to the death?


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Re: Katsamoto & Maximus vs the Witch King & Lúrtz

Samurai or Legionnaire would likely wreck Lurtz, he was little more than a lumbering brute.

Witch King could be a problem depending if he can be hurt by them. If he isn't magically protected from specific harm here, he likely goes down but is taking either Samurai or Legionnaire with him.


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What?

Seriously?

Either the Witch King or Lurtz would solo. no expression

Lurtz seriously gave Aragorn a hard time, and physically makes Katsumoto or Maximus look like leetle ****ing girls. The Witch King is as much above Lurtz as Lurtz is above them.

The Witch King kills either in one hit, and Lurtz could easily kill whoever was left.


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Yeah, the WK isnt to be taken lightly at any time.

Besides, he screams and they cower, then he crushes them with his flail.


Lurtz also has a bow, so dont forget that, and hes a decent shot with it, not much aiming time.

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Lurtz would prove a challenge to both at once. Adding the Witch King makes it beyond spite.

To say Lurtz was little more than a lumbering brute is a bit off base. A person Lurtz's size wouldn't give Aragorn the fight he gave him through size and brute force alone, he had some skill too.


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Aragorn is the same guy who was fighting an Ogre and blocking its blows.

Aragorn is physically no normal man.

In fact, if the movies were closer to the original source material, then he should be eight feet tall.


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The Witch King was slow and dare I say a bit clumsy as were his weapons. Further more he was having a bit of trouble with Eowyn who had almost no combat experience if any. Lurtz was a bit better, but not much. Aragorn, who wank aside is not out of the league of Maximus or Katsumoto, ended him fairly quickly.

In other words Maximus and Katsumoto should take this with moderate trouble.


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Aragorn is the same guy who was fighting an Ogre and blocking its blows.


He wasn't so much muscling with the "ogre" as he was rolling with the punches/deflecting blows and getting knocked on his arse.


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What?

Seriously?

Either the Witch King or Lurtz would solo. no expression

Lurtz seriously gave Aragorn a hard time, and physically makes Katsumoto or Maximus look like leetle ****ing girls. The Witch King is as much above Lurtz as Lurtz is above them.

The Witch King kills either in one hit, and Lurtz could easily kill whoever was left.


Lurtz was a lumbering brute. Slice to the throat, he bleeds out like the rest of us.

Witch king is slow too. What makes him a beast is his supposed protection and causing fear. Any decent warrior would avoid that wrecking ball.


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He wasn't so much muscling with the "ogre" as he was rolling with the punches/deflecting blows and getting knocked on his arse.


Yes he was.



At 7:23 he clearly blocks the troll's attack.

Team LotR takes this with very little difficulty.

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Why are you gays discussing Aragorn? He's not in this battle.


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Because Lurtz is a challenge even for Aragorn...

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Because Lurtz is a challenge even for Aragorn...


Not really. Aragorn was tired from traveling and having just slaughtered a mob of 20-30 Uruks single-handily. Had he been fresh, he'd have torn slow-ass Lurtz a new ******* in a couple moves.


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Slow ass Lurtz.

Lurtz was beating Aragorn's ass at first, and was able to pin him to a tree with a ****ing shield throw.

Lurtz was not slow at all, get over it.

Oh, and the Witch King's mace ensures that Katsumoto and Maximus cannot actually get close to him.

Lurtz and definitely the Witch King are physically much stronger, more durable, and Lurtz has shown to be a better and more skilled fighter than Katsumoto at the least. :3


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Slow ass Lurtz.

Lurtz was beating Aragorn's ass at first, and was able to pin him to a tree with a ****ing shield throw.

Lurtz was not slow at all, get over it.

Oh, and the Witch King's mace ensures that Katsumoto and Maximus cannot actually get close to him.

Lurtz and definitely the Witch King are physically much stronger, more durable, and Lurtz has shown to be a better and more skilled fighter than Katsumoto at the least. :3


Lurtz is slow, sure he can run pretty fast. But fighting, HE'S A LUMBERING BRUTE.

And what had Aragorn done before that fight? Traveled for weeks with little rest, got into multiple fights and had just minutes prior faced about 20+ Uruks by himself. You can see how tired Aragorn is in the fight. But when he gains composure for a minute, he WTF overwhelms Lurtz.

Proof:




No it does not. That mace is a slow wrecking ball and when he swings it takes him a couple seconds to recover. Any skilled warrior could move in and stab during those moments.

What makes the Witch King a threat, is the supposed protection and fear. The blowing up staffs is good too.

Proof:


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Pretty sure that if either of T1 do manage to stab the WK they'll get pwned the way Eowyn and Pippin (or was it Merry?) did.

Then assuming they do take the WK down they still have Lurtz to deal with only one or both of them are now seriously injured/weakened.


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Yeah, even in the movie it broke bones in them just from stabbing him. Normal people cant fight with a broken arm or broken wrist.

And thats assuming they dont cower in fear of his screaming, due to the fact only Gandalf and Faramir were shown to resist it, Gandalf, a wizard, and Faramir, who even by movie accounts is no oridinary Man.

I would quote the book, but it doesnt matter

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Yes he was.



At 7:23 he clearly blocks the troll's attack.

Team LotR takes this with very little difficulty.


It's hard to see, but one time not with standing and we'll get back to it in a moment. Aragorn doesn't full on block he absorbs part of it while turn his sword/redirecting the attack. The only time he full on moves the "ogre" sword/goes sword to sword is when he holding his sword in both hand throws the full weight of his body into his opponents blade, causing it to buckle back slightly for a moment. Before the "ogre" still with one hand casually tosses him back.


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Yeah, even in the movie it broke bones in them just from stabbing him. Normal people cant fight with a broken arm or broken wrist.

And thats assuming they dont cower in fear of his screaming, due to the fact only Gandalf and Faramir were shown to resist it, Gandalf, a wizard, and Faramir, who even by movie accounts is no oridinary Man.

I would quote the book, but it doesnt matter


Neither Maximus or Katsumoto were weak or fearful guys. King of the hoody patrol yelling at them isn't likely to bother'em much.

Did stabbing him break bones I know his attacker flew back in pain, but did the movie mention or suggest broken bones at some point?


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A quick question to the pro-LOTR camp here. Are you suggesting that Eowyn or the Hobbits could take out Maximus or Katsumoto? 'Cause Eowyn took out the witch King with an assist from a HObbit and Hobbits chucking rocks and the like took out Uruk-Hai.


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