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Cyclops VS Wolverine

Cyclops VS Wolverine




1. who wins a fight to KO or incapacitation with prep & no prep?

2. who is the better tactician, leader, & strategist overall? which of the two has better instincts?

3. given time to build their own team, which of the two builds the better overall team. i.e. which team would likely defeat the other?

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1. Cyke with prep, and more than likely Logan with no prep.

2. Cyclops is leagues above Logan. He does good when leading his own team, but the plans and strategies Cyclops comes up with are insane, and he does it constantly.

3. Cyclops, definitely.

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1. Cyke with prep, and more than likely Logan with no prep.

2. Cyclops is leagues above Logan. He does good when leading his own team, but the plans and strategies Cyclops comes up with are insane, and he does it constantly.

3. Cyclops, definitely.


1. Cyke with prep - how? What's he done with prep? For a 1vs1 fight scenario, I mean.

3. Not sure about that. Scott's team could be more versatile, but Logan's one would be willing to kill.


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I just see Cyke setting up a bunch of surfaces that he could use to keep Logan off guard with his ricochets. Then after whittling him down, he'll just heavy beam him for the win.

And you are right about Logan's team being more willing to kill. But Cyke's will be more versatile and they'll have a much better leader.

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I just see Cyke setting up a bunch of surfaces that he could use to keep Logan off guard with his ricochets. Then after whittling him down, he'll just heavy beam him for the win.

And you are right about Logan's team being more willing to kill. But Cyke's will be more versatile and they'll have a much better leader.


Just because he has prep doesn't mean he chooses and preps the battlefield itself. That's an unfair advantage.

I can agree.


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1. Cyclopes with a strong win. one optic blast should be enough if landed. it's pure force and it cut through a mountain for gods sake.....

1. Logan

3. Cyclopes


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1. Cyclopes with a strong win. one optic blast should be enough if landed. it's pure force and it cut through a mountain for gods sake.....


An Hulk busts planets and holds together tectonic plates... yet still can't one shot Wolverine.


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An Hulk busts planets and holds together tectonic plates... yet still can't one shot Wolverine.


But the Thing can, so .... Thing >>>> Hulk


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An Hulk busts planets and holds together tectonic plates... yet still can't one shot Wolverine.
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Cyke wins every scenario. Wolverine is an excellent tactician though.


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no way cyke should lose imo. and it certainly doesn't need to be one shot. given the diastance at the start and cyke's displays of accuracy, he should be able to score a ko.


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An Hulk busts planets and holds together tectonic plates... yet still can't one shot Wolverine.


were not talking death here were talking ko. So if your trying to say that a straight on hit from hulk wont KO wolverine then he's(wolverine)even more pathetic then i once thought.


.....and people wonder why wolverine is losing fans. I loved his character then he started doing things like that. I hate him anymore unless he's in the avengers.


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He was still conscious and that retcon was kinda retconned later by the same writer anyway laughing out loud So I wouldn't use it as evidence.

I think only the original fight from IH #181 should be usable. To hell with all the retcons of retcons of retcons, Marvel has lost it.


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He was down for the count

Do you have the issue number of the retcon retcon?


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He was down for the count

Do you have the issue number of the retcon retcon?


Logan was getting up and said he could still take him, Hulk was lucky the military gassed him

Seven the Hard Way arc, issue 41. There's a flashback panel with Wolverine in his original costume in midleap actually doing minor damage to Hulk's chest.

Then you have X-Men Origins: Wolverine one-shot in which Logan was shown with costume torn by Wendigo... FCD 2009, again with Logan wearing the original costume... and, finally, Wolverine Saga 2009 that actually uses original panels from IH #181 for that encounter summary.

Seriously, so many inconsistencies and different retellings of the fight...


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i asked this in the comic book question section but i thought since it had to do with this topic you would post it here as well....

ok lets say wolverine was just standing and hulk comes out of no where and hits wolvie really really hard(doesn't hold back) in the face. wolverine lives and im okay with that but wouldn't that ko him still due to his brain would be bouncing around in his skull? i mean it's not like he could even heal until it stopped moving.....


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were not talking death here were talking ko. So if your trying to say that a straight on hit from hulk wont KO wolverine then he's(wolverine)even more pathetic then i once thought.


.....and people wonder why wolverine is losing fans. I loved his character then he started doing things like that. I hate him anymore unless he's in the avengers.

I don't think he's losing any "fans" apart from people on vs forums who probably didn't read his comics anyway. People get pissed when his unique powerset gives him victories over people that haters think "should be out of his league". Dude is still stupid popular otherwise. That wasn't aimed at you or anything, just sayin'.

Taking a single optic blast from Cyclops isn't all that for Wolverine. He's stood up to strong attacks like that for a good while now. It's not anything new really.

As for the thread, Cyclops wins all three scenarios.

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