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The Chaos King VS Molecule Man

The Chaos King VS Molecule Man


amatsu-mikaboshi at his strongest. no prep. Current/Most Recent molecule man.

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The original MM couldn't even control organic matter, and needed a wand. Current would be a better match.


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agreed, but is the chaos king a organic or an energy based entity?
if more energy based, the orginal mm might have a chance.

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MM that was a match for the beyonder would be good. I think he would win.

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MoleculeMan from secret wars would win.Current MM would probably lose since CK manipulates Molecules as well.Add the fact current MM got beat by Sentry.


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Chaos King craps all over him.


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The original MM couldn't even control organic matter, and needed a wand. Current would be a better match.
He thought he couldn't control organic matter.

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chaos king would wtf stomp void, and void beat MM


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Molecule Man is all over the place power wise. Recently, though not as recent as his Sentry fight, he threw down with the Beyonder (who he extracted by force from Kosmos).

The fight was wrecking havoc across ALL space and time simultaneously. Just as MM was going to kill the Beyonder, Kubik steps in and begs him not to. Not for Beyonder's sake but for the sake of the multiverse (killing a being of that level of power would wreck havoc with creation). Keep in mind this was POST ret-con MM and Beyonder!

If it's that Molecule Man, CK is toast.


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how would ck be toast?

celestials are more powerful than kubik and beyonder and so is galaxtus who got ignored by chaos king .


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how would ck be toast?

celestials are more powerful than kubik and beyonder and so is galaxtus who got ignored by chaos king .


Because MM/Beyonder threatened the entire multiverse with destruction? And the difference between CK threatening the "multiverse' and MM/Beyonder doing it, is unlike CK, it was SHOWN on panel other dimensions, timelines, being affected by MM/Beyonder. The Living Tribunal, Eternity, Order and Chaos were even witnessing the event and commenting on their "omnipotence".

The LT didn't even acknowledge CK.


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LT isnt part of incredible hercules comics as stated by pak


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Originally posted by zopzop
Recently, though not as recent as his Sentry fight, he threw down with the Beyonder (who he extracted by force from Kosmos).

The fight was wrecking havoc across ALL space and time simultaneously. Just as MM was going to kill the Beyonder, Kubik steps in and begs him not to. Not for Beyonder's sake but for the sake of the multiverse (killing a being of that level of power would wreck havoc with creation). Keep in mind this was POST ret-con MM and Beyonder!
Recently?

The battle you mentioned happened in Fantastic Four Annual #27, which was released in 1994. "Recently" =/= 17+ years ago.


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Recently?

The battle you mentioned happened in Fantastic Four Annual #27, which was released in 1994. "Recently" =/= 17+ years ago.


Well it's relatively recently big grin

Point is it was post ret-con so MM and Beyonder are still capable of some super awesome feats. PS the Spiderman Secret Wars behind the scenes issue kinda backed up that even post ret-con MM/Beyonder are powerful.


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He thought he couldn't control organic matter.

Um, OK? Regardless, he was incapable of doing it at the time. Psychological or not, it was a limit.


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Point is it was post ret-con so MM and Beyonder are still capable of some super awesome feats.
I know. I just like being overly literal sometimes. stick out tongue

Anyway, 17 years ago Owen may have been written as quite the powerhouse. However, his "most recent" incarnation (referring to Dark Reign) was not nearly as powerful. That version would lose horribly here.


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Originally posted by zopzop
The LT didn't even acknowledge CK.


Here are the reasons why LT didn't fight the Chaos King.

1.Athena stated in Chaos War#4 that even if the Chaos King succeeded in his mission to end all things, another creation event will happen.Hence Athena's own words "existence can try again and get it right this time!"Because of those reasons, LT would have a reason not to intervene.

2.The fact the Chaos King is Eternity's dark half earns him a place in Living Tribunal's faces.And if Living Tribunal fights the Chaos King, he ends up slapping one of his faces in the process.

3.Living Tribunal's faces must agree on a verdict.We already know Eternity's verdict.Infinity's verdict would be the same as Eternity.Death would probably vote on moving against the Chaos King.Oblivion's verdict would be the same as Eternity.Galactus is already obvious.So its fairly obvious LT wouldn't intervene to stop the Chaos King.This would earn CK a sort of diplomatic immunity.Or is it a Multiversal Immunity?Meaning LT can't arrest CK.

Although I will say LT would beat CK.


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most recent MM would get stomp by CK..PR MM would crap all over CK..

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Here are the reasons why LT didn't fight the Chaos King.

1.Athena stated in Chaos War#4 that even if the Chaos King succeeded in his mission to end all things, another creation event will happen.Hence Athena's own words "existence can try again and get it right this time!"Because of those reasons, LT would have a reason not to intervene.

2.The fact the Chaos King is Eternity's dark half earns him a place in Living Tribunal's faces.And if Living Tribunal fights the Chaos King, he ends up slapping one of his faces in the process.

3.Living Tribunal's faces must agree on a verdict.We already know Eternity's verdict.Infinity's verdict would be the same as Eternity.Death would probably vote on moving against the Chaos King.Oblivion's verdict would be the same as Eternity.Galactus is already obvious.So its fairly obvious LT wouldn't intervene to stop the Chaos King.This would earn CK a sort of diplomatic immunity.Or is it a Multiversal Immunity?Meaning LT can't arrest CK.

Although I will say LT would beat CK.

This is basically true... in general, LT will not fight abstracts because they are simply performing their designated function. Rather, you can say he intervenes when outside entities disrupt these natural functions.


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