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The 25th Anniversary Zelda Villain Gauntlet
THIS THREAD WILL CONTAIN SPOILERS.
Lots, and lots.
Ganondorf runs this gauntlet... With a few new powers granted by his original form. Demise.
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Everyone, meet proto-Ganon.
Skyward Sword brings the scale of Ganon's power into a new light.
Some feats include -Conquering time. (However the **** you do that)
-Crippling a goddess. (But ultimately losing to her. He'd apparently have won had they fought again, so weakened she was from the battle.) Note she is not one of the goddesses of creation, but powerful in her own right.
-Creating a massive fissure in the earth and flooding the planet with demons which slaughtered the Hylian race.
-Reincarnating as mother****ing Ganondorf.
Those are all feats without a piece of the triforce.
Demisendorf does three fights, each themed around a piece of the triforce, in the order I collected them at the end of the game.
1. With his sword, Ghirahim, in hand, he squares off against a group of characters who represent Power.
Akuma, War, Kharne the Betrayer, who promises to try to play nice. A little.
He fights alone. This takes place in Demise' pocket dimension where he fights Link. Straight up fight with no nonsense.
2. Battle two is against characters who represent Courage.
Samus Aran, because I've always wanted to debate against someone reasonable, leads her trio, with full access to all of her gear, but no 'suit stacking for extra damage reduction', she wears her strongest armour. She is accompanied by the brave, albeit annoying, Dante. He too has all of his gear. Lastly, Sora joins. No time ****ery for anyone because Demise apparently conquered time.
They charge into his castle and face the dungeon before they fight him.
Once again, he fights alone, but may force Ghirahim back to a human form to help him fight, or use him as a weapon in his sword form, at any given time, whichever is more advantageous.
3. A trio of characters who represent Wisdom. He faces an Eldar Farseer, Kain the Vampire, an avatar of Vecna.
The final trio is given one full day of preparation time.
(I had a hard time coming up with characters for the Wisdom fight, shame on me.)
During all battles an orchestra protected by a force cage of pure justice which protects them from all harm and interaction plays this song:
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He stops at 1, Kharn the betrayer being a chaos marine with a chain axe would chop him into piecies. I cant recall anything to note of War and I dont know Akuma.
In 2, Dante could probably solo.
In 3, Kain could solo, as no doubt could an Eldar Farseer.
I can understand some hype but why this spite thread was made just because Ganondorfs previous form looks vastly cooler than the new and has a few spicy sounding claims around him is beyond me.
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Kharne, while awesome, isn't going to solo Ganondorf, I'm afraid. He still needs to actually hit him with Gorechild to achieve anything, without assistance he has no way to do that against Ganondorf, who can fly.
Dante's already been in a thread against Ganondorf on his own. It didn't go his way. Thanks for your long and well thought out post on why Dante would apparently solo.
The Eldar Farseer is definitely more threatening than Kain, yes. Kain soloing is even more laughable than ever, though. Demise was able to hold his own in a fight against the Goddess Hylia, whose servants can do things like flood entire regions or blow up volcanoes with casual ease.
Demise reincarnated as Ganondorf, with a piece of the triforce? Kain is outclassed in every way.
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He could probably toss Gorechild through Dorf, killing him fairly quickly, Dorf being fairly slow, certainly not comparable to the reactions of a marine and if flight is the problem, any of the other two with him could probably toss him, it would look lulzy but I can see it working.
"it didnt go his way" from you pretty much means "Claimed Dorf the win without debating anything!". I thought it was pretty clear, Dante being far faster and more than powerful enough.
Unless you have the showing of him fighting Hylia, you have nothing but a title.
lol, apart from the way where he is faster, can kill with any one of his spells, mind rape or simply slash him in half, if it wasnt for your thread related removal of time powers, he would slash him in half while in stasis.
Again, ill put this thread down to your utter joy of Skyward sword, pushing your already more than enthusiastic fan love to this spite thread.
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You'd be right. The game's incredible.
You'd be wrong here, there is definite debate to be had.
Dante for all his speed and strength has no answer to TK --> Decapitation.
Kain, for all his wrinkly undeath, has not a single feat that puts him on the level of his opponent in any category, and will certainly need his allies to succeed. You'd be wiser to put your chips on the combination of the Farseer and Avatar of Vecna.
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Last edited by ScreamPaste on Nov 24th, 2011 at 01:15 PM
I can see trickster getting him out of TK, not that Ganons Tk is necesserily strong, if anything all I recall seeing it move is the dead body of one of his minions although his problem is going ot be reacting to do this TK before Dante beheads him.
Just words, I see no evidence for your argument at all, just fan love.
Hmmm. [SPOILER - highlight to read]: Best I can say is she could exploit Demise's "weakness" to electricity with the wave beam or wavebuster to stun him, and follow up with the Light Beam, since it has the best chance of hurting him. I don't know if Dante or Sora have anything to keep him from coming back.
Against Ghirahim, same thing, Light Beam is the best chance.
[SPOILER - highlight to read]: I only say that because Link can do it, too, and both are able to stun each other. When their swords get struck, nothing happens, but getting hit by an electrified sword works for some reason.
Incidentally, those Bokoblins with tasers. **** them.
[SPOILER - highlight to read]: Weak to electricity huh? Well, Sora can use Thunder. That's fairly electrifying! Sora can also assist his captain with his own light beam. I know nil about Dante though.
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[SPOILER - highlight to read]: It's probably similar to how Ganon's own magic can hurt him in later games. Demise is the one who created that lightning bolt, after all.
And yes, **** them, lol. Never swing from the right first, always hit from the left, it's safer against them.
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The moon and stars aren't just shades of lead
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Still cant belive youve put some of the more powerful entities in fiction against a character that consistently gets defeated by a kid with a sword and shield. Thats even literal, all the entities here have more power, protection and variety beyond pretty much all links and canonically he only needs a couple of items to even win. Watching vids of Demise, theres not even much he can do, if hes supposed to have beaten a goddess then clearly, their not as powerful as you assume.
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That 'kid' is a hero in the literal and figurative sense. He does things no one else could do, and the sword in question is an artifact of incredible power.
Skyward Sword has it forged and empowered by the three goddesses that created everything. That's the origin of the Master Sword. It was created as the goddess sword by Hylia, and empowered by the three most powerful deities in the continuity. And that shield is imbued with heroic power, that is the word used, making it indestructable.
Link's skill and ability with those things are unquestionable. To quote Demise himself "You fight like no man or demon I've ever known..."
Demise fought HYLIA. You know, the goddess that created Skyloft, and seperated it from the surface world with a seal? Then created three dragons who are casual city busters?
Comparing Link to a 'kid with a sword and shield' is like comparing An Astartes to a couch potato armed with a pocket knife.
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