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Current Colossus & Worthy Juggernaut Vs Superman


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What feats do the two have?


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Not enough fts.


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Well Juggernaut is supposed to be amped, and current colossus is supposed to crush amped juggernaut


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Personally, I'd give Worthy Juggernaut an even split if not an edge over Superman. If the new Colossus is even half as powerful as this amped up Juggernaut -he hasn't done anything yet- then the team pretty much wreck him.


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Well Juggernaut is supposed to be amped, and current colossus is supposed to crush amped juggernaut


That's not really saying much, though.


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Worthy Juggernaut has pretty much walked through everything thrown at him, including the best Utopia has to over short of like Legion. Hope had to use the combined power of the mutants just to get his goddamn helmet off and it not only burned her out, but failed to actually do anything to him.

Not only that, but he can fly and battle field removal is no longer an option.


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Juggernaut recently is pretty much unstoppable and bfring isnt an option anymore since he can fly.

As for Colossus, he just appeared... why use him when he doesnt have any fts?

I agree with Rage on this one but I would still like to see fts from both.


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Worthy Juggernaut has pretty much walked through everything thrown at him, including the best Utopia has to over short of like Legion. Hope had to use the combined power of the mutants just to get his goddamn helmet off and it not only burned her out, but failed to actually do anything to him.


Yeah, he is pretty much unbeatable. Hell, his hammer is even unstoppable. I would give him the edge but even though Colossus is my buddy, he make threads a lil to soon.

Wait untuil Pete get some fts with the gem first.


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Worthy Juggernaut has pretty much walked through everything thrown at him, including the best Utopia has to over short of like Legion. Hope had to use the combined power of the mutants just to get his goddamn helmet off and it not only burned her out, but failed to actually do anything to him.

Not only that, but he can fly and battle field removal is no longer an option.


Ah. Sounds uber.


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Juggernaut recently is pretty much unstoppable and bfring isnt an option anymore since he can fly.

As for Colossus, he just appeared... why use him when he doesnt have any fts?

I agree with Rage on this one but I would still like to see fts from both.

I don't have the scans on me, but Uncanny X-men #540-#542 along with the Thunderbolt Fear Itself tie-ins should show you the level the new Juggernaut is operating on.


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I don't have the scans on me, but Uncanny X-men #540-#542 along with the Thunderbolt Fear Itself tie-ins should show you the level the new Juggernaut is operating on.


Would you consider him more powerful than Worthy Hulk? Both seems unbeatable and Hulk is currently taking on the vampire nation and is about to fight Dracula.

Who is operating on a high level between the two iyo?


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I think Worthy Hulk should at the very least be as powerful but Juggernaut without a doubt has the better showings. Barring the fight with Thor, he had an embarrassing showing in that Avengers issue. Heck, it'd be a bad showing for a non amped Hulk.

If it's any consolation though, the comic did acknowledge that he got a large boost, and a less powerful team wrecked Count Nefaria who is also at the very least an Elite Top Tier. Whatever, it's Bendis.


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I was in full agreement until you said "mindrape".


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Juggs hasnt done anything other than walk.

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I was in full agreement until you said "mindrape".


I was half joking tbh but he does have the capabilities. I'm not sure if contact has to be initiated but overpowering Emma + Cerebra and forcing her into some kind of trance means he has some pretty damn powerful telepathic abilities.

Frankly, any type of mental/spiritual intrusion has completely failed against the Worthy. Shaman against Attuma, and Veil against Titania would be the other instances.


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I was half joking tbh but he does have the capabilities. I'm not sure if contact has to be initiated but overpowering Emma + Cerebra and forcing her into some kind of trance means he has some pretty damn powerful telepathic abilities.

Frankly, any type of mental/spiritual intrusion has completely failed against the Worthy. Shaman against Attuma, and Veil against Titania would be the other instances.


Not bad.


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Cyclops also said that on a good day Juggernaut was a Thor level threat, and now that he's one of the Worthy he's even more powerful.

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