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Name your top 5 villains from Stephen King films/miniseries

You can explain why you put the villains where and why you like them if you want or just list them.


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IT
Andre Linoge
Randall Flagg
The Langoliers
Captain Hadley.


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IT
Andre Linoge
Randall Flagg
The Langoliers
Captain Hadley.
To me it comes down to Pennywise and Linoge as well but I need to see Storm of the Century again it's been years and it isn't on netflix nor at my local video store.


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Linoge is a highly underrated bad guy...Very imposing and creepy although I thought it wasn't necessary to show him as an old man...That made him seem a lot less intimidating.

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Linoge is a highly underrated bad guy...Very imposing and creepy although I thought it wasn't necessary to show him as an old man...That made him seem a lot less intimidating.

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I remember when they showed him at the end vaguely since it's been so long. I personally liked it showing his true older form. I just need to find it to rewatch it.


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Pennywise: while not the greatest in the novel Tim Curry brings her to a new level and she truly becomes the stuff of your nightmares.
Jack Torrance: The only reason he is not first is because it's arguable that he is not a villian.
Warden Norton: Great villian from an even better movie.
Randal Flagg: While only a hollow shell of what he is in the novels, Flagg is still a frightening menace.
Andre Linoge: Frigtening and creepy... Need I say more.

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Pennywise: while not the greatest in the novel Tim Curry brings her to a new level and she truly becomes the stuff of your nightmares.
Jack Torrance: The only reason he is not first is because it's arguable that he is not a villian.
Warden Norton: Great villian from an even better movie.
Randal Flagg: While only a hollow shell of what he is in the novels, Flagg is still a frightening menace.
Andre Linoge: Frigtening and creepy... Need I say more.
Since when was Pennywise considered a she ?


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It is female. At least in the novel and is laying eggs and such... Don't recall if this was in the movie though.

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It does not have a gender, but Pennywise is a guy.


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It is female. At least in the novel and is laying eggs and such... Don't recall if this was in the movie though.
I found on since I never read the book the losers club thinks it's female. That just killed "it" for me.


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It does not have a gender


The book actually exclaims at one "IT is female!?" Or something to that effect.

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but Pennywise is a guy.


Arguable. If someone changes their gender, say from female to male, are they actually male? I'd say no. For me it's the same thing with Mytque. Sure she may turn into males but she is truly a female. And when I said Pennywise I was reffering to all of It not just the clown.

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Well then due to this shocking revelation my list is easily done.

1.Andre Linoge
2.Overlook Hotel (yeah sue me but it changed jack's mind into becoming the psycho he later became)
3.Pennywise(Fell two notches due to being female)--screw you ares.
4.Randall Flagg
5.Christine (yeah I know female car but what am I going to do)


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lol you're welcome quanchi! big grin

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The book actually exclaims at one "IT is female!?" Or something to that effect.



Arguable. If someone changes their gender, say from female to male, are they actually male? I'd say no. For me it's the same thing with Mytque. Sure she may turn into males but she is truly a female. And when I said Pennywise I was reffering to all of It not just the clown.
It is a cosmic being without a gender.

Humans can not even see It's true form, they don't know if it is a male or female.

The form Pennywise is male.


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The fact that it was female was a huge plot point.

"OH DEAR JESUS IT IS FEMALE"

"It's female, and It's pregnant . . . It was pregnant then and none of us knew except Stan, oh Jesus Christ YES, it was Stan, Stan, not Mike, Stan who understood, Stan who told us . . .That's why we had to come back, no matter what, because It is female, It's pregnant with some unimaginable spawn . . . and Its time has drawn close."

So unless you want to argue with the text, It's female.

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The miniseries doesn't make it clear but apparently the book does. The form Pennywise seems to be male but as a shapeshifter that really doesn't prove anything. I'm almost mad enough to email Steve King and give me a piece of my mind.


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The fact that it was female was a huge plot point.

"OH DEAR JESUS IT IS FEMALE"

"It's female, and It's pregnant . . . It was pregnant then and none of us knew except Stan, oh Jesus Christ YES, it was Stan, Stan, not Mike, Stan who understood, Stan who told us . . .That's why we had to come back, no matter what, because It is female, It's pregnant with some unimaginable spawn . . . and Its time has drawn close."

So unless you want to argue with the text, It's female.
Because they perceived it as a giant spider laying eggs, which would be female, that wasn't it's true from.

It even says his name is Robert.

I don't know what you aren't getting. It's a cosmic being that shape shifts into what ever form it wants. It has no set gender because it's a genderless entity that exists outside of our physical world.


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Because they perceived it as a giant spider laying eggs, which would be female, that wasn't it's true from.


There's a reason King's typing up characters saying "IT'S FEMALE!"

There is simply no reason to believe he is lying to us.


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I don't know what you aren't getting. It's a cosmic being that shape shifts into what ever form it wants. It has no set gender because it's a genderless entity that exists outside of our physical world.


Why must a cosmic being be genderless? Hell, look at the Crimson King. He is well beyond Pennywise in the cosmic scale and is clearly a male figure.

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He isn't lying, he also wasn't speaking as an omniscient narrator, those were kids (humans) who are incapable of seeing It's true form.

Why must it be genderless? Idk, ask King, he made it genderless.

It is just energy, did you completely forget what the Deadlights were, did you forget how It was described in the Macroverse?


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He isn't lying, he also was speaking as an omnicient narrator, those were kids (humans) who are incapable of seeing It's true form.

Why must it be genderless? Idk, ask King, he made it genderless.


Not once stated.

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It is just energy, did you completely forget what the Deadlights were, did you forget how It was described in the Macroverse?


Sure. Which doesn't preclude the possability of It being female.

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