Well, uh. I'm not sure about strength, actually. One of Zero's best strength feats is breaking a steel floor, but I'm not sure that quite beats the pillar toss. Speed is more or less a toss up.
As for abilities, a lot of Zero's are melee focused, or at least are close to medium range. Link would have the advantage in longer range engagements, and his magic would be pretty hard to dodge.
Was taking a shot in the dark that Zero = Megaman, who had Mach 5 reactions and could somewhat support* part of a castle. If not then Link has the physical advantage.
I was thinking his Hax would be his saviour here, like NY, masks or some other item he has.
*IIRC he let go to run and it didn't immediately collapse.
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Link dual wields the four sword and master sword while giant, one of his copies uses the magnet gloves to keep Zero still, another shoosts him with ice arrows to make sure, and the giant one crushes him with the megaton hammer.
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ok, i'm just going to say static as that is more conservative.
also, how exactly will composite work? obviously, they get all the nifty items, but what about stats?
For example, will it be TP Link's base strength stacked with OOT Link's base strength and all the rest of em if applicable? Or will it just default to the Link with the highest stats for any particular field?
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Never really thought about it, since I rarely am allowed to use composite Link. TP Link + GG's = awesome regardless, though. I've seen no strength feats from Zero to rival what that would be capable of, especially with the giant's mask and various power bracelets, ect.
There being four of Link kind of makes this insanity, particularly if Zero has no defense against Spell.
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Yeah, I keep hearing this, but having played both series, it comes across as a massive case of Informed Ability. At no point in the X series does X really feel superior to Mega Man.
Quick Man, from the original series, has a "cruising speed" of mach 5. In game he move primarily by jumping, but that is neither here nor there. The point being that the X and Zero series don't have anyone comparable to this. The best I can think of Drive Ostrich, who has an arbitrary speed rating of 5500 rpm, but no indication of what this means. The Zero series has Harpuia, whose attacks are described as "sonic."
Mega Man's fastest enemy? Mach 5.
Zero's fastest enemy? Barely mach 1, if that, and it's only his sword beams.
For strength, we have Mega Man holding up the ceiling of Wily's Fortress. It's possible that he had help with this, as you can hear Protoman's whistle right before the ceiling stops collapsing, but again neither here nor there. Zero, for comparison, once punched a hole through the floor. I estimate it being maybe 7 feet of material.
Mega Man's best strength feat? Holding up part of a castle.
Zero's best strength feat? Punching the floor.
Objectively, and by feats, I'm tempted to say Mega Man is superior his successor X, as well as Zero. The only thing that keeps this from being true is a statement that X is just "better" than Mega Man.
About your last statement, yes, we all know that Zero has been stated to be stronger than Megaman. X, which is stronger than Megaman, has the 17th upgrade of normal mega buster which still cannot damage Vile's ride armor while Zero with a half charged shot, managed to break Vile's Ride Armor hand (As seen in Maverick Hunter X game). We can say that Zero (from X1) > X (X1) >>> Megaman. And that's Zero from Megaman X1 version. Zero from X8 or Zero series is much stronger. Yep. By feats, Megaman seemingly has more than X or Zero. But still, we have a feat from Zero which makes him looks superior to Megaman.
Also, we don't know how Megaman react against Quickman. All we know is, time-stopping weapon is Quickman's weakness. Who knows, Megaman actually used time-stopper to defeat Quickman. That possibility exists even though we don't have a proof about that.
I haven't played Maverick Hunter X, but I did play the original Mega Man X. Unless something was changed, X could damage Vile's Ride Armor but was simply unable to defeat it. (Granted, I'm basing this off of the fact that the Ride Armor flashes when hit. When you can't damage something, the shots bounce off.)
How are we defining "stronger"? I won't argue that the MK 17 Megabuster is superior to the original, but I was more discussing physical strength. X has stronger weapons, sure, but I would still argue that Mega Man has a meaner left hook than X.
In Maverick Hunter X, Vile has life bar when we fight him for the first time. But during the fight, X can only damage Vile if X aimed at Vile's head. It won't cause a damage if you shoot the Ride Armor.
Well... I have no proof that X has better physical strength than Original Megaman. But, maybe we can use this. In Megaman X3, When you used the charged version of Tri-Thunder, X would punch the ground and caused an earthquake while it caused electricity at the same time, while Tri-Thunder is a thunder based weapon. Not power based.
I need to play Maverick Hunter X, then. Very well, I'll concede that one.
I don't know how to quantify an earthquake, but I see your point. Admittedly I can't quantify a ceiling, either, it just seems more impressive. Meh, the whole point is moot when we have a statement that says I'm wrong, anyway. I just disagree with the presentation, and I'd rather see X being stronger than just be told he is.
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