Can the guy with swords beat the guy who struts to the bat tootsie!
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Batman could solo all of Companions of the Hall at once. Comic book streets just have significantly better speed, strength and skill feats. When a character's best speed feat is parrying arrows... they need to stay the hell away from Batman.
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Batman has been trained in numerous martial arts. In fact he has even practiced blind thus negating a possible darkness spell from Drizzt.
His gear like gas, bombs, sonics, etc would be equivalent to low level magics making them more on even footing....
Batman has fought against some of the best swordsman around and this is not at a severe handicap in this area either.
With this gear he can knock the elf or tie him up from a distance.
If he gets in close I'd argue his hand to hand is better than Drizzt.
The elf does not have stats outside of a peak range human if you compare official Dnd stats against Bruce who has easily lifted more in comca than Drizzt off memory has ever done. Probably even more then
He has dodged lazers, and bullets which reaction time wise should make him able to stay ahead of arrows.
His punches and kicks and various attacks have broken down robots, mythical creatures etc like omacs and battling along the amazons.
I understand batman possibly losing but he is not screwed.
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
Does Dizzt still use twilight (?) magic? It's been years since I've read the books. And I remember Drizzt in a melee brawl, along with Wulfgar and Bruenor, and it was commented his movements were a blur with his scimitars.
I think Bats is boned if this is a close quarter fight...unless he has a full power batkick!
1. I don't remember what you are talking about but you are describing his scimitar speed vs Bruce's overall speed. And come on, Bruce has top end feats that keep him out of harms way even when in close quarters with strong or quick foes.
2. Magic I don't know for sure, his spells used to be inherent due to his dark elf race... So... Im unsure why he would have lost it. Going by the novels it was a common tactic of his.
If you think Drizzt is so fast think about batman going against death stroke and shiva... Are their feats really any worse (personally I say better) than Drizzt feats.
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
The problem is: I'm going from memory of a fight described, not illistrated. I don't recall Batman taking out people in the way Drizzt was described. I'm also referencing the first few books with Drizzt, Wulfgar and Bruenor. I haven't read anything since. They are good. I know Drizzt is in a D&D comic now.
I strongly disagree with this. Bruenor was capable of blocking a mounted cross bow with magically enhanced speed and overall power after it was fired behind him from couple of feet away. And Drizzt was significantly faster then bruenor before he started were the bracers which magically enhance his speed. He was describe as moving in a blur consistently in combat.
Wulfgar had clear superhuman strength the dude picked up a camel and used it as a weapon by throwing it at his attackers who were several feat away from him. He uses to take full on swings from giants wilding weapons consistently with out going down.
Bruenor was able to tank magically enhanced giants hits with war hammers and keep on coming. He also was able to support 1800 pounds before. The were not inferior to comics streets at all.
In that situation I believe Bruner was wearing magical Mithral armor. (strongest metal after Adamantiun in dnd)
Wulfgar lifts camels? I'm sure I could probably find a scan of Bruce kicking darkseid who tanks superman level punches.
Are you saying batman doesn't have feats that can contend with picking up a 1500 pound (full grown adult) camel?
Dwarfs in dnd have special defenses against giants. Also he wears That magical armour...
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
He always wearing armor whats your point? He wouldent be armorless in a fight. Also he taken direct hits to the face where he has no armor.
He picked up a camel and throw it several feat with enough force to take out several men.
Whats your point? Ar eyou going to try and suggest that legitment feat? Or is anything remotely come close to batman consistent power level? Hell no.
I saying Batman is not consistently portrayed at a level of strength where he can lift up a camel and throw it as a weapon. Trying to pretend some out liner feat is his consistent level of strength is lieing to yourself.
Are you fing kidding me? It a book series, game rules are completely irrelevent. Hell Salvatore books constantly conflict with there game setting.
now your just trolling me
Last edited by Dum Dum Dugan on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 01:39 AM
Lol. Im not trolling you. You originally responded to srankin. Lol.
Don't hate on someone just cause they know about dnd also. So first to say we have to go by the books accepting the pis and ignore the official stats for the characters then say we accept batmans stats and ignore pis feats? Lol.
It was a book series part of the dnd world, that's like saying we shouldn't accept the handbooks for characters.
And I never said he was armor less, I said it ignores blatant facts like his magical axe and armor and skills vs giants.
And getting back to it. This has nothing to do with bruenor. The battle is Bruce vs Drizzt so I'd like it if you didn't try to derail the thread.
__________________ Quotes from Hia8:
"I claimed that the science is sometimes faulty."
"You don't understand. This is fiction. That means none of this stuff really happened."
"There is no writer to purposely ignore a character's natural ability just because it suits the story."
"in some cases because the writer knows that Character A will dominate Character B easily and refuses to allow this to happen for the sake of the story."
Last edited by rotiart on Mar 2nd, 2012 at 02:01 AM
Right ehre trolling. Your trying to pass off a game rules on a fantasy world. That does not work you chump. Thats like argueing marvel universe role play rules in in fight between capt and spiderman. It rediculous.
Accepting what pis? Dude you arguement seems to be falling apart and now your just saying random shit.
When did I once say we are using batman stats from a handbook? When has PIS feats ever been allowed? What are you puffing?
We don't...........
shot yourself in the foot with that one.
Which he always has one, the point is utterly moot. And again he has no armor on his face.
I not ignoring any of these things. I simply said he tanked giants attacks. Which is not inaccurate he does. Your jsut throwing out red herring now.
And trying to argue points I never made
I'm not trolling buddy. I have two hours on the subway everyday, and I use that time to read. High Fantasy, Sword and Sorcery and Historical Fiction are my books of choice. I go through two - three books a week, if all the people who posted in this thread combined had read as many books as I have... I would be truly astounded and impressed.
Batman is SO much better than Drizzt that it is laughable. I can name dozens of fantasy characters that would take Drizzt 10/10 that would still lose 10/10 to Batman themselves. List Batman's top 10 strength, speed and skill feats. Then do the same thing for Drizzt and company... then try to tell me with a straight face that this isn't a spite thread in favour of Batman or that I'm trolling.
The only character remotely related to Drizzt who has a shot at Batman is Artemis with Charon's Claw, and that is only because he just needs to nick Batman's skin a single time to kill him.
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