no he isnt, he didnt present in his movies any notable super speed unlike cap
no he isnt a much better fighter
no he isnt stronger than movie cap, movie cap was sending people flying left and right and tore off a punching bag with a punch, blade while hitting humans was just beating them up and wasnt throwing them around like rag doll.
blades best strength feat was in blade 3 when he kicked TRIPLE H and sent him flying causing him to tear off a metal door but thats a contribute to TRIPLE H's weight as well
Cap showed superior movement speed, but not combat speed. In combat, Blade has him beat by leaps and bounds. Like when he fought La Magra Frost in the first movie.
He's not a better fighter? So he wasn't shown to be an excellent martial artist and sword duelist in all 3 movies?
In the 1st movie, Blade was sending people flying after drinking some blood. He jumped from a several dozen floor building and landed on the ground so hard that he created a shockwave and started car alarms to the end of the block. He caught the back end of a speeding train with one arm and didn't get his arm ripped off. Kicking Triple H through a at least a foot thick reinforced steel vault door and making him knock it off the hinges is insane. As for his weight, Triple H isn't even 260lbs.
Better fighting skills, better durability (witness the fight with Nomak) better reflexes (blade catching etc)...plus, he could bite Cap - would be OOC though.
blade didnt show any superior speed to any degree, he didnt present any significant speed advantage over the averege human being aside of him being the better fighter, at least Cap presented some kind of super human speed even if its running which clearly shows us he is in the super human category at least
blade was a great fighter in his movies however his showings doesnt put him above cap who is an excelent fighter himself
he wasnt sending people flying he was kicking them its something that could be done even by me
jumping doesnt mean strength just like outrunning a car doesnt mean combat speed
in every freaking action movie you see people being able to grab trains or busses without getting their arm ripped out, if anything thats a durability feat and not a strength feat, let it be reminded that the girl that was with him also grabed on to the train and didnt get her arm ripped out
i already mentioned this feat no need to repet it, its not like he tore the door itself it only collapsed which means the connections of the door failed, it doesnt matter how huge or hard the door is because the links that connect the door to the wall were the ones who failed, in the movie TRIPLE H was presented as a super human vampire and we dont know how much he was intended to weight in the movie, when he fought hanibal he jumped on the floor and created a slight quake that alone tells us his weight was above normal, i can kick a guy and my kick force plus his momentum plus his weight plus his mass will do the same thing to a wooden door, 2 vampires doing same thing to a metal doot doesnt mean much
In these 3 fight scenes, Blade demonstrates far greater combat speed, agility, and skill than Cap. He also demonstrates strength feats like the super jumps and knocking people 10+ feet as an afterthought and sending that poor guy rolling along the ground.
In the first video, he kicks that guy hard enough to shake the room and send him flying, and that was from a stand still and against his momentum as he was jumping at him. And keep in mind, all these people he were fighting were vampires with strength equal and sometimes greater than his. He was breaking bone with every strike.
Also, jumping equates to leg strength. People who can jump really far have incredible leg strength, etc... As for Cap being an excellent fighter, what? He was trained in h2h by the military for a few months, and he never fights anyone skilled. Blade on the other hand has fought tons of highly skilled opponents.
Last edited by KingD19 on May 25th, 2012 at 10:48 AM
In this first fight, he shows crazy skills, enough strength to crack the concrete ceiling by lifting a full grown man into it with one hand. He also shows "blinking" speeds as he's gone by the time the cops walk to the pool and no one saw him leave.
Here he shows impressive leaping ability and skills, as well as the durability to take punches and hits from Nomak(who is insane strong) like getting his head slammed through a marble pillar, and strong enough to hurt him with his own blows.
And finally his fight with Drake. Blade shows higher swordsmanship skills than the guy who'd been a warrior conqueror for thousands of years. And oh yeah, kick Drake clear across a room from a position that gave him absolutely nothing to brace against or any leverage. He would have jumped clear across the room too if they hadn't met in the middle. And when Drake slammed him into the floor? Breaking it? And then when Drake transformed and started beating him like a stepchild, he still had enough strength to hurt him.
I'm willing to give Cap running speed, but considering what Blade's shown, he could be pretty quick himself. Doesn't change that fact that Blade's easily strong enough to hurt Cap, and fast and skilled enough to dodge that shield when it's thrown, dodge it again if it ricochets back, and get past it and mess up Cap's day.
cool fights but i didnt see any speed fight above human, in those fights he demonstrated good skills but not superior speed at all, if you notice in many scenes he actually had to block multiple strikes from his enemies, and in the first video while fighting some guy hand 2 hand they actually were at the same speed level blocking each other until blade came as the superior, as far as speed blade presented only human speed in those fight he had the endge on skills and strength on those guys however not speed at all
as far as strength goes blade sent people flying and cap sent people flying, blade needed kicks to send people flying while cap did it with his hands which is more impressive since as i stated even i can send someone couple feet flying with a good kick to his gut, as i said before as far as strength both guys sent people flying however cap actually tore off a punching bag with a punch blade didnt do anything that can compare to this
as far as skill goes just because blade got flashy moves doesnt mean he is the better fighter, cap dismissed people with a single blow and wasnt threatened at any point by humans when fought them, blade on the other hand was exchanging hits with people and had to counter block their punches which shows us they actually gave him a slight fight, cap sent his opponents flying like rag dolls while blade still got into close fights with individual guys, lets also not forget the vampire girl that kicked his ass with simple karate kicks in the first movie
jumping contributes to leg strength just as much as outrunning a car by foot, dont be a double standard person
Frost dodged the bullet, he saw it moving in slow motion. So unless people are going to argue Frost is faster than Blade then we can assume Blade can do the same.
Also if I remember correctly Blade's leaps were pretty fast and high.
So can someone now please enlighten me on how what Speed feats Cap has shown that compares??
The guy he was fighting was La Magra, a Vampire God with legit superspeed; shown by when he zipped around the platform then knocked Blade off it; and dodged a bullet like it was nothing. And when they were fighting so fast they were making sparks it was far faster than what has shown to be capable of. And the people he were fighting were vampires with the same stats as him. So it was Blade vs people with - physical capabilities. Cap only fought regular people. If Blade fought humans, they'd be going flying every which way too.
Blade can't compare to anything like knocking the sand bag? He kicked a 300-400lb man clean across a 30+ foot room with no leverage or power behind his kick. He kicked a 140-200lb man a good 10-15 feet or further with a jump kick from a standstill, while the man was jumping at him. He lifted a 130-200+lb man one handed into a concrete ceiling hard enough to crack it. What are you talking about?
And once again, all the people Blade fought were Vampires on his level or higher. La Magra(guy with the sword), Nomak(Bald guy), and Drake(big red vampire demon) all had higher stats than Blades. Everyone else was either equal, a little higher, or a little lower. As for the girl, she only beat him up after he'd been drained of blood iirc.
Last edited by KingD19 on May 25th, 2012 at 11:21 AM
Cap has two legit speed feats, although they are movement speed, not awareness and combat speed. He ran after a taxi cab(back then they could hit maybe 30-50mph), and swam after a mini-sub.
Cap's only ever fought humans and chitauri with normal speed, and when he fought Skull, it was pretty evenish.
They were all vampires. So by your admission, Blade has the edge on skills and strength over vampire ninjas. And was equalling multiple strikes from multiple opponents. Yet somehow that doesn't equal to higher speeds?
How many martial arts films ahve you seen where the hero gets attacked one at a time? Then how many where he fights multiple opponents at once - and holds his own?
as i stated before while showing cool flashy fights he doesnt demonstrate greater strength than cap, the only thing cap demonstrated here is being able to slam people and lift them up, cap has done the same thing to people and also punched a punching bag causing it to tear off the place and sent it flying, thats something above the things blade presented
the cieling wasnt concrete unless you can prove it was a solid concrete
blinking speed because he left before the cops arrived? geez he could be hiding somewhere nearby , guys like bamtan does it all the time dissapear before the cops arrive give me a break thats a lame speed feat Lol , and like you said yourself it doesnt equel fighting speed but i guess double standard is nothing new to you
strong enough to hurt nomak? and what are nomak blunt force resistance feats again?
he shows a nice durability however nothing impressive compared to captain america taking blows from the red skull or getting hurt by cyborgs in the avengers movie
basically blade best strength feats are sending someone with human physic flying just like cap did but somehow you came to the conclusion he is far stronger than cap
so lets conclude this
strength edge cap = while both guys are sending people flying cap did it easier more natually like people were rag dolls to him, also cap punched off a punching bag something that trumps the things blade did not by much but still
skill edge Cap = blade was exchanging blows with people and actually got smacked by little vampire girl with kicks, cap dismissed his opponents with single strikes which clearly shows us he is the better fighter overall as he didnt have to exchange blows and take it more seriously when fighting humans, blade actually got hurt several times by humans ganging on him, he only presented great skills after drinking a hell lot of blood
agility edge Blade = i give him that he was very agile
Combat Speed Cap = while blade was exchanging blows with people and some of them actually were match for him by fighting speed, Cap dismissed his opponents with single strikes before they were able to do anything therefor he is actually the faster combatant
movement speed Cap= Cap outran a car by foot what did blade ever do? he couldnt even catch up with a motorcycle
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