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Kal-L Vs Kingdom Come Superman

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Earth 22 Superman wins.


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Kal-L spite stomps KC Superman.

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Kal-L spite stomps KC Superman.
You've got to be kidding me. Based on what ?


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You've got to be kidding me. Based on what ?


Based on creating a sun with your bare hands


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Based on creating a sun with your bare hands
What does that feat have to do with anything ? It's like saying Drax rips Thor in half based on him ripping a star in half.


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So you want a vs feat?

how about killing AM?


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So you want a vs feat?
I am saying feats don't mean a whole lot in how these guys stack up.


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I am saying feats don't mean a whole lot in how these guys stack up.


Based on personality? he kills easier than Kal-El and has the power to create suns, shatter the boundaries of time and space as a shared feat and killing anti-monitors.

What does KC Superman has on that level?


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Based on personality? he kills easier than Kal-El and has the power to create suns, shatter the boundaries of time and space as a shared feat and killing anti-monitors.

What does KC Superman has on that level?
Destroying time space was a result of the fragility of space/time due to Alex's manipulation during ic.

Am was extremely weakened at the time. Context.

Against Superman from ne he looked like a peer. Kc Superman looked vastly superior to Superman.


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isn't kc superman always recognized as more powerful than main stream superman ?

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isn't kc superman always recognized as more powerful than main stream superman ?
Yes, but Kal-L wasn't. I personally see Kc Superman wrecking Kal-L.


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Destroying time space was a result of the fragility of space/time due to Alex's manipulation during ic.

Am was extremely weakened at the time. Context.

Against Superman from ne he looked like a peer. Kc Superman looked vastly superior to Superman.


Destroying time and space as a result of Alex manipulating the multiverse? yet when did you saw OTHER heroes pulling the same stun during the same event?

Only 3 kryptonians pulled that stunt and no one else.

Context with the AM? I'm sure you are aware of weakened was AM, so no need to mention that again.

You did not mentioned the sun, I wonder why.

You want me to start pulling out Kal-L feats? is not going to look good for KC Superman


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Destroying time and space as a result of Alex manipulating the multiverse? yet when did you saw OTHER heroes pulling the same stun during the same event?

Only 3 kryptonians pulled that stunt and no one else.

Context with the AM? I'm sure you are aware of weakened was AM, so no need to mention that again.

You did not mentioned the sun, I wonder why.

You want me to start pulling out Kal-L feats? is not going to look good for KC Superman
I don't care if anyone else did it or didn't. The only reason they did so was due to this at this time.

Kal-L's feats aren't relevant since the crisis since he was neutered by the writers since then. All precrisis characters lost immense power whether the crisis directly affected them or not.

Since then Kal-L was equal to Ne Superman but Kc Superman's on another level.


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So now we can't use Pre-Crisis feats for Kal-L?


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I don't care if anyone else did it or didn't. The only reason they did so was due to this at this time.


Yes Quan, there is a reason why they could not do this in the past.

Before IC there was no multiverse boundaries to shatter and this was meant to be an all out fight between the two of them to save their own universe.

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Kal-L's feats aren't relevant since the crisis since he was neutered by the writers since then. All precrisis characters lost immense power whether the crisis directly affected them or not.


Dismissing evidence? Kal-L feats are still canon for him.

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Since then Kal-L was equal to Ne Superman but Kc Superman's on another level.


I chalk that up to some shock value for KC Superman, after all I remember both KC SM and Kal-El with standing a blast that opened hyper time and IIRC Kal-l performed better vs Doomsday than NE Superman. They are not entirely equal.


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Since then Kal-L was equal to Ne Superman
He was stronger.

He held the advantage during their fight, he broke out of Wonderwoman's lasso, when they fought Doomsday Superman was knocked back easily, but Kal-L stopped Doom's fist with one hand.

Kal-L was stronger.

Also, KC Superman is being overrated. He's from an alternate universe. Aka, not actually relevant to mainstream Superman. Meaning: Him being said to be stronger than he was when he was younger means jack shit.


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