Which of these movie villains had overall the best plan in accordance to the completion of their goals? This isn't a power contest or a prep war between them, but rather an examination of their strategy and how they adapted to their respective foil(s) before ultimately being defeated.
Bane (The Dark Knight Rises)
The Joker (The Dark Knight)
Ra's al Ghul (Batman Begins)
Lex Luthor (Donnerverse, ie. both Spacey and Hackman portrayals)
Mr. Freeze (Batman and Robin )
The Riddler (Batman Forever)
The Penguin (Batman Returns)
The Joker (Batman)
Loki (Thor/Avengers)
Red Skull (Captain America: The First Avenger)
Sebastian Shaw (X-Men: First Class)
The Lizard (The Amazing Spider-Man)
Magneto (X-Men Film Series)
Dr. Doom (Fantastic Four Series)
Green Goblin (Spider-Man)
Dr. Octopus (Spider-Man II)
Which villain also came the closest to their comic book counterpart's overall success ratio in terms of planning/plotting?
Deliberately left that person out for spoiler reasons. And if I added that person, I may as well add Thanos. Besides I think the party most associated with that character did plenty of hands on thinking and planning to stand on their own.
Can I please add one even though it's not technically comic-book oriented?
Goldfinger in the movie of the same name.
Was breaking into Fort Knox...
NOT to steal the gold, but to set off a nuclear device and irradiate the gold within, making it untouchable and taking it OFF the market... thereby making his own gold reserves skyrocket in value.
^ That is a good plan, actually, but for this purposes of this thread I'm trying to keep it to the mainstream comic book movies and their comic book counterparts.
I completely understand. It's just one of the most brilliant plots I've ever seen in a movie.... completely takes the hero and everyone else by surprise.
Going back to your list.....
Mr. Freeze's plan actually worked, since he got to continue his research (albeit from Arkham)
but it wasn't how he wanted it.
I go Loki.
His plan was working perfectly.. the only part that threw a major wrench into it was the unexpected selflessness of Tony Stark. Who woulda thought he would go into the portal and risk his life to destroy the alien mothership?
Otherwise, every other part of the plan, including his capture worked toward his goals (well, except for Hulk smacking him around like a dirty ho)
I think Loki's plan in Thor was actually a bit better than in the Avengers, but in terms of character development, it makes sense as he had nothing to lose after being beaten by Thor and faking his death.
I also think Ra's al Ghul's plan of cleansing Gotham was genius. He had no real flaws outside of underestimating the cause of the Wayne murders and failing to convince Bruce to join his crusade.
And you can't really fault Bane's plan, and say he underestimated the Hero - when you [SPOILER - highlight to read]: break someone's back, then throw him into some hellhole half the world away, then kill the only guy in the world capable of defusing your nuke.... you can't really say that you haven't taken every precaution.
But to me, Ra's was the man in the Nolanverse. Guy set the stage for everything to happen in the subsequent movies. He was definitely "immortal" in the sense Nolan was getting at.
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