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Revan -vs- Darth Vader
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Revan -vs- Darth Vader

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After defeating the already powerful (and then Star Forge-enhanced) Malak - Revan redeems himself in the light.

He returns to Lehon a hero - but all is not well.

Darth Vader, enroute to meet with Palpatine in his TIE fighter, falls through a wormhole, and ends up crash-landing on Lehon.

Stepping out of the craft, unharmed, Vader spots Revan and suspects him to be a survivor of the Jedi Purge.

Revan recognizes Vader as a Sith Lord, and, donning his helmet, lights his sword, and steps forward to challenge Vader.

Vader and Revan stare each other down.

Starting Distance Apart: 10 Feet.

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Vader cool


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Okay, look. Um, me feels no agenda to meeting and vacuum in leadership position, so me has composed 12 point plan for good happy success.

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Vader still rolls /thread. cool


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Revan tries some of his fancy force powers and Vader picks up the TIE behind him and crushes Revan with it.

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Revan gets bvtt fvcked.

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Vader is likely faster and his TK feats surpass anything Revan will ever show.

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Originally posted by jmoul
Revan gets bvtt fvcked.


Care to explain how? smokin'

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Vader is likely faster and his TK feats surpass anything Revan will ever show.


Of course Vader is faster - he's known to be one of the fastest characters of the mythos, according to George Lucas.

Don't let the heavy, clunky robotic body fool you. stick out tongue

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Originally posted by Rookwood
Of course Vader is faster - he's known to be one of the fastest characters of the mythos, according to George Lucas.

Don't let the heavy, clunky robotic body fool you. stick out tongue


Please go to my 'Peak Bane vs. Peak-Suit Vader' thread, the debate about Vader's speed being reduced by his suit is breath-taking.

Also, now that I think on it, I'm not sure how Revan gets bvtt fvcked, since Vader got severely burned down there.

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Please go to my 'Peak Bane vs. Peak-Suit Vader' thread, the debate about Vader's speed being reduced by his suit is breath-taking.

Also, now that I think on it, I'm not sure how Revan gets bvtt fvcked, since Vader got severely burned down there.


Oh, I already know that. stick out tongue

Did you see how Vader was moving like a blur, when he was trying to avoid Luke's swings?

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Vader has actually blitzed Jedi before, so he is not as slow as he appears.


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Oh, I already know that. stick out tongue

Did you see how Vader was moving like a blur, when he was trying to avoid Luke's swings?

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Well him and Luke were about as blurrish as Mace and Sidious were.

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Vader has actually blitzed Jedi before, so he is not as slow as he appears.


Are there any links to pictures for this?

I know he's killed Jedi, but I always figured they were tired and starved from running during the Purge, and he essentially wore them down with his strength/weight and Force attacks.

But if there are links to pictures of him speedily-blitzing Jedi, I will gladly view them for clarification.

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You are confusing speed with mobility. Yes, he can't jump around like a monkey. Yes, he can't practice yoga sessions. But nothing prevents him from swinging lightsaber as fast as possible. Weight of his armor is unknown. His proestetic hands are not necessarily heavier than real ones. What is known is that his suit is enhanced by Sith sorcery, so it supposed to increase his capabilities, not other way around.

In Luceno's book his speed was said to be faster than anyone but Yoda.

He nearly speed blitzed even Marek in rage:
The intensity of Darth Vader's attack redoubled. "I have no father."

The apprentice fell back under the rain of blows. The sizzling of fabric and a faint stink of burning skin told him that at least two of Darth Vader's misses had been horribly near, but he felt no pain.


Lumiya is more of a machine than Vader and her potential doesn't compare to Chosen One, nor was her costume enhanced with any sorcery. Yet, it didn't prevent her to be fast enough even for Luke.

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Indeed. The novels speak to Vader and Lumiya's total Force powers being diminished by their injuries, but not their speed.

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Originally posted by Rookwood
Are there any links to pictures for this?

I know he's killed Jedi, but I always figured they were tired and starved from running during the Purge, and he essentially wore them down with his strength/weight and Force attacks.

But if there are links to pictures of him speedily-blitzing Jedi, I will gladly view them for clarification.


'Forte and Kulka were skilled duelists, but Vader was not only faster than Starstone remembered him being on Murkhana against Master Chatak, but also more agile. He employed his awesome power to put a quick end to the fancy twirling of his opponents, who fell back against the hammering blows of Vader's bloodshine blade.

Time and again the two Jedi Knights attempted to alter their style, but Vader had an answer for every lunge, parry, and riposte. His style borrowed elements from all techniques of combat, even from the highest, most dangerous levels, and his moves were crisp and unpredictable. In addition, his remarkable foresight allowed him to anticipate Forte's and Kulka's strategies and maneuvers, his blade always one step ahead of theirs, notwithstanding the two-handed grip he employed.

Toying with the Jedi, he grazed Forte on the left shoulder, then on the right thigh; Kulka, he pierced lightly in the abdomen, then shaved away the flesh on the right side of the Ho'Din's face.

Seeing the two Jedi Knights drop to their knees, wincing in pain, Padawan Klossi Anno broke from where she was helping Jambe and Nam engage the stormtroopers and got to Vader one step ahead of Starstone.

Sidestepping, Vader slashed her across the back, sending her sprawling across the balcony; then he whirled on Forte and Kulka just as they were clambering to their feet and decapitated them. From behind Vader came Jambe and Nam, neither of whom was an experienced fighter and both of whom Vader immediately eliminated from the fight, amputating Jambe's right arm, and Nam's right leg.

To her horror, Starstone realized she was suddenly alone with Vader, who immediately signaled his stormtroopers to leave her to him, and to devote themselves to slaughtering the few Wookiees who remained on the tier.'

Vader takes out 3 Jedi without even engaging them properly. Casually sidestepping and killing one Jedi then taking 2 others out 'immediately.' He's also noted to be fast and agile, enough to toy with his opponents.


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His style borrowed elements from all techniques of combat, even from the highest, most dangerous levels,


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Can't remember what issue (was near the end of the series) of Darth Vader and the ghost prison, but Vader was fighting a jedi and when he tried leaping over Vader, Vader was fast enough to reach his arm up and grab him by the pony tail (in mid air) and slam him down hard enough to break the concrete on the ground.
Good strength/speed feat for him. Not the best but it shows how quick he can be. I'll try and find the scan.

His speed was never reduced because of his injuries, the problem has always been his stamina. He can be almost as agile as Anakin was if he truly needs to be, he just can't keep it up for very long. He really isn't as slow as some posters are making him out to be though. Obviously not the fastest but plenty quick enough to keep him in this fight.


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Originally posted by TheMagicPillow
Can't remember what issue (was near the end of the series) of Darth Vader and the ghost prison, but Vader was fighting a jedi and when he tried leaping over Vader, Vader was fast enough to reach his arm up and grab him by the pony tail (in mid air) and slam him down hard enough to break the concrete on the ground.
Good strength/speed feat for him. Not the best but it shows how quick he can be. I'll try and find the scan.

His speed was never reduced because of his injuries, the problem has always been his stamina. He can be almost as agile as Anakin was if he truly needs to be, he just can't keep it up for very long. He really isn't as slow as some posters are making him out to be though. Obviously not the fastest but plenty quick enough to keep him in this fight.



People do generally underestimate his speed and agility. But he's definitely not as fast and mobile as his pre-suit self.

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