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RotS Sidious and RoT Bane run a gauntlet

Darth Bane in his prime is whisked away miraculously and arrives at the Chancellor’s office by the end of the Clone Wars.
He faces powerful Darth Sidious, but instead of fighting each other, the Sith decide to join forces and enter a gauntlet—the victorious team will rule the galaxy forever!

Setting: Chancellor’s office, where Sidious and Mace fought in RotS.

Conditions: TWO scenarios 1) 3 hours rest between the battles 2) full rest between the battles

Can the unlikely allies make it? cool

1. CW Maul, Savage, Ventress and Kas'im
2. Revan and Malak
3. Exar Kun and Ulic
4. Malgus and Zannah
5. RotS Dooku and OT Vader
6. Plagueis and Caedus


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Stops at 6.


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Sidious at this point could beat Plagueis.

Bane would utterly tool Caedus.


Bane and Plagueis would be a toss up.
Sidious would destroy Caedus.



They clear.

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Depends on how well Caedus fares against the likes of Sidious. Having not read any of the books in that era I can't speak for him, but he needs to be atleast Dooku-level for them to have a chance.

So they'll clear.


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Bane would utterly tool Caedus.

hmm... erm

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Bane and Plagueis would be a toss up.

Possibly.

However, I recall a thread about the two where it has been powerfully argued that after all Plagueis, per the rule of two, is the strongest one, and his midichlorian manipulation will eventually cost Bane his life./shrug

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Depends on how well Caedus fares against the likes of Sidious. Having not read any of the books in that era I can't speak for him, but he needs to be atleast Dooku-level for them to have a chance.

So they'll clear.

From what I gather Caedus gave Luke hell in sabers. (to what extend it was circumstantial, I'm not sure.) He also effortlessly bested Katarn and the strike team...On the other hand Mara Jade nearly ended him...

My personal opinion is that Caedus is in the same tier of saber prowess as the good Count, and that his Force powers eclipse Dooku's but are not quite on the level of RotS Sidious.

You know, you should ask Arhael, he seems to know a heck lot about Caedus.


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I think they can have problems as soon as #1.
Obviously Maul and Savage will be cut down by Sids, but Kas'im (whom I see as superior to Savage in sabers) and Ventress will give trouble to Bane, no doubt.
Also, if the teams change opponents, again Sids takes Ventress and Kas'im down, but Savage and Maul will give Bane hell IMHO.

#5 I think OT Vader has a very good chance at taking Bane down due to his Force powers that eclipse Bane's IMHO.


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So yeah.


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^ thumb up

Yeah, it warrants a belief that Plagueis > Bane

EDIT: This reminds me, IIRC a book cover called Caedus to be even more powerful than his grandfather, Darth Vader.


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Wait for the Bane supporters saying it's non-canon. Wait for it.

Anyway:

1. Sidious and Bane completely stomp this
2. Same as #1
3. Probably a stomp
4. Probably a stomp
5. Wins with mid-difficulty.
6. Wins with hard difficulty. Bane may die.


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Wait for the Bane supporters saying it's non-canon. Wait for it.

Oh, I'm sure it will follow. smile


Also: found quote about Caedus here:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Invincible_(novel)

It’s a plan that will be as difficult and dangerous to execute as it is daring. For Caedus is a scion of both the Skywalker and Solo bloodlines whose command of the Force surpasses even that of his grandfather Darth Vader. There is only one who is bound by destiny to stand against him in what will surely be a duel to the death, only one with an outside chance of bringing down the dark lord who was once Jacen Solo. (taken from Invincible)



If Caedus' Force powers are indeed beyond even that of Vader and his bladework is as good as it seems, than there will be absolutely no tooling him by Bane.

In fact, it seems that Caedus can give Sidious himself a run for his money....


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Are you guys trying to use a teaser as proof?
Those seriously are not canon, and AFAIK nobody has actually tried to use one as such.


Also, Bane has orbalisks.

Luke wasn't trying to kill Caedus.


Plagueis is not the strongest, Palpatine has several quotes that say he is. Plus, Sidious, as per the Rule of Two, was stronger than Plagueis was anyways.


Intrepid, I love how you like to ignore what Bane can do. The guy got to the top tier for a reason.

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Sidious at this point could beat Plagueis.

Bane would utterly tool Caedus.


Bane and Plagueis would be a toss up.
Sidious would destroy Caedus.



They clear.


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More importantly, since when did you discover the awesomeness that is the visual novel genre?

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At one, both Bane and Sidius could tear the foursome apart with the Force without even having to resort to sabers, and outclass them utterly even if they decide to engage them with blades.

Two through four are a breeze as well. Five may require some sweat, but they will never be in danger of dying.

Six, peak Sidious definitely outclasses his successor. Bane is Caedus' superior in every way. This is certainly the hardest battle of the gauntlet, but there's no reason they shouldn't come out the victors here either.

Keep in mind that Caedus' only kill against a high-level duelist is Mara Jade, whom he poisoned when she was about to kill him. His only success against Luke came due to favorable setting for their encounter, despite which he still lost. As to his command of the Force, he had a lot of special abilities such as Time Walking, but even the reference to being greater than Vader is only so so, as we know how diminished Vader was by his injuries.

They clear and go home to contemplate their navels after a hard day at the office.

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1. Stops at 6.
2. Clears rather easily

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Intrepid, I love how you like to ignore what Bane can do. The guy got to the top tier for a reason.


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More importantly, since when did you discover the awesomeness that is the visual novel genre?


Since I started watching Phoenix Wright Lets Plays. A fellow on youtube named Fuandon does them, and he also did one on 999. Most of his stuff is visual novels.


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Check out Ever17 if you can, it's basically 999's older brother and you should be able to find a way of playing the PC version easily enough. Try to stay away from the Lets Plays as well, playing the games is basically no added effort and this way you get to actually make the choices.

999's sequel, Remember11, and Never7 are all fine choices as well, as are Chaos;Head and Saya no Uta. Tsukihime and Fate/Stay Night are overrated.


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The last fight would be extremely difficult, but they could clear.

Caedus alone should be an even match for Bane, as Plagues would be for Sidious. Certainly a close toss up.


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Check out Ever17 if you can, it's basically 999's older brother and you should be able to find a way of playing the PC version easily enough. Try to stay away from the Lets Plays as well, playing the games is basically no added effort and this way you get to actually make the choices.

999's sequel, Remember11, and Never7 are all fine choices as well, as are Chaos;Head and Saya no Uta. Tsukihime and Fate/Stay Night are overrated.


Yeah, but I've got minus 600 pounds to my name. I can't afford to spend money on games! And illegally downloading them is too risky, I always get virus' from that stuff.


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The last fight would be extremely difficult, but they could clear.

Caedus alone should be an even match for Bane, as Plagues would be for Sidious. Certainly a close toss up.

Sidious should be above Plagueis by ROTS. And Caedus would do well against Bane too considering his performance against Luke.


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