Danny and Luke are IMO the most under-rated team up ever, they probably have the best team-work in a duo then any other two in MU.
Luke Cage is definetly strong enough to take down Spiderman, or atleast occupy him whilst Danny takes care of Wolverine. Once Wolverine is out of the picture (which he would be rather quickly) it's Cage & Danny against Spiderman, he'd go down eventually.
wolverine and spidey curb danny and luke.. the end.
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Actually, Spiderman was officially declared a 25 tonner. That means he is on par with Cage in strength. Combine that with a spider sense and agility and speed, and your being speed blitzed by Luke Cage himself.
I don't know much about Iron Fist but I'm betting Wolverine and Spiderman can take him.
Im going to ignore the Wolverine stroking going on...
Setting Cage against Spider-Man...Cage should be able to take a lot more of a damage soak than Spider-Man with the whole steel hard skin deal and what not.. Being in the same strength class and such, Cage will get Spidey eventually so I'd even be willing to hand a slight majority to cage for durability reasons.
IF and Wolverine could really go either way, pretty much a 5/10 split here...real deciding factor is in who wins between Cage and Spidey.
Spidey? It's all about speed versus durability, which wins out in your opinion?
Also note that Spiderman is NOT officially a class 25 hero. He is still in the 10 tons - 25 ton range. Officially, he hasn't yet been upgraded to 25, so (as far as we know), Cage is still stronger.
Logan? Here, Cage's durability is meaningless and his strength means little more. I think Cage versus Logan is clearly in favor of Wolverine.
Now;
Iron Fist versus
Spiderman? Here, Spidey's speed is nullified a bit, considering that Fist can chi amp up to his level. I've also seen Fist work some nerve strikes on Spidey before, and we all know it'd probably only take ONE Iron Fist to put Spiderman out of commission. But, Spidey does have the webbing and, therefore, mobility advantage. Though, maybe Fist will be able to hypnotize Spiderman, considering he's mastered that technique now. Meh, I'll give the majority here to Danny.
Wolverine? This is a draw, to me. Neither is vastly superior in speed or strength, and if either can land a good hit, it's a one-hit-knock out. 5/10.
Seems like team 1's best chance is if the match ups go Cage vs. Spidey and Fist vs. Logan. But even then, they probably wouldn't win much more than 6/10. And, if the matchups go the other way, team 2 will probably take the majority.
Thats not accurate. First of all we dont know for sure wether Spiderman can lift 25 tons. Even if that was the case Luke Cage's durability enables him to hit harder than people with the same strength level
Furthermore Luke Cage may not be as fast as Spiderman but hes not slow and is an expert streetfighter. Cage could probably take anything that Spiderman would give him and Cage will eventually hit Spiderman and Cages punches will do more to Spiderman than it will do to him.
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IF can take out Spider-Man for the majority, but not Wolverine? Does the Iron Fist do less damage to Wolverine than it does Spidey:
And you even said that IF can amp himself speed-wise to match Spidey, yet he's not clearly faster than Wolverine when doing the same thing?
Eh. Concerning Spidey and Cage, I'd have to give to Spidey. The strength issue is the still in the air, as we've already seen Spidey show strength in the 20+ ton region. But I don't think strength will be the key here. Spidey is exponentially faster than Cage, as well as faster reflexes. Sure, he can't puncture Cage, but doesn't have to. He could just as easily immobilize him with webbing. Or he could cause internal damage via repeated blows or using the environment to his advantage. And really, he's just too fast to receive a good hit from Cage.
With Wolverine versus Iron Fist, it is a 'who can strike first' scenario. If Danny lands a good Iron Fist on Logan, it's lights out. Likewise, if Wolverine lands a good claw strike on Danny, he's probably out of the game.
Then again, Danny CAN heal himself with chi, so maybe he'd win more often than I first hypothesized.
Also, while Spiderman is faster than Wolverine (and probably faster than even a chi-amped Danny), it isn't by a noticeable margin. I was merely pointing out that if Danny amps his speed, Spiderman will lack his largest advantage. Wolverine's largest advantages are his healing factor and his lethal weapons.
That fight I'm still not going to give a judgment on. It's all about speed versus durability, and I'm not convinced in either direction.
Right now, I'd think that Iron Fist could take either Spiderman or Wolverine for a slight majority, but Cage'd likely lose to either, so....
Okay, I can understand where you're coming from now, this post is a little more clear in your intentions.
And while I understand your reasoning for IF closing the speed gap against Spidey, Spidey's still got the GINORMOUS strength advantage. So if he can dodge IF enough (which I think both you and I believe he can) and land even just a decent shot, it should put Fist down. Kind of the same deal with Wolverine really.
But yea. By NO means is this an easy match. Not by a long shot. Both Fist and Cage lay some serious damage on the other two, but I just don't think it'll be enough.
Meh, when Danny has a chi surge, it also amps his durability. Think of the crazy monks you see getting concrete broken over their head, but on a comic-book level. I think he could take a punch or two from Spiderman(especially considering that he's taken punches from Cage). The same can't really be said of Spiderman against the Iron Fist, however. Hell, even without the Iron Fist, Danny's punched through A SOLID STEEL GIRDER, with it he's been able to knock out Hercules and do some insane damage in the past.
I still maintain that Rand can take a slight majority from either Pete or Logan. Though, my first instinct is that Cage'd probably lose at LEAST A slight majority against either, as well.
Thusly, as you said, this'll be quite a tough match for either team to win.
Meh, I'm gonna give this to team one, based on it being really close to begin with, and the fact that Danny and Luke have MUCH better teamwork than Spidey and Logan.
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