This is a close fight, but I think I'm going to go with Kenobi. I flip-flop on this one, but he does have the better skill showings and his TK is actually a lot better than I initially thought.
Unless we're factoring in that they're fighting at the Sith Temple, which is likely a Dark Side Nexus, so Cade wins because he uses the dark side. Derp.
Can someone provide feats of Cade's offensive force feats?
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I agree that Kenobi has good TK feats, but unfortunately that doesn't change the fact that he gets consistently ragdolled by the likes of Darth Maul and Count Dooku.
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It's so ****in weird. Like, I read that entire series. But I'm drawing a blank on... pretty much every aspect of it. lol
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He defeat A'Sharad Hett, before Hett had any sith training whatsoever. Krayt grew far stronger in the force later, and more experience.
Literally the inventor of DT
The ship-lobbing one, a few pages prior there was an establishing shot showing it was quite far away (certainly 120+ feet, perhaps farther. Scale's kinda tough, but one shot showed the ship, some space, then the corpse of a 40-foot monster they killed, then more space, then more space, then where they were fighting), so he really tossed it.
Yes, Cade's major TK feats are ragdolling Talon, and throwing a damaged starfighter. They're very good, but not exactly out of Kenobi's reach. Obi-Wan has moved shuttles, invoked tidal waves, ripped down durasteel slabs, etc.
Cade's ability in other aspects of the Force widely outstrips Kenobi, though. He can kill instantly with Dark Transfer, his lightning can kill fodder Sith, he was able to turn Maladi's illusions back on her, and he erected a protection bubble that protected him from a large blast.
Still, though. Kenobi besting Jedi Hunters like Maul, Savage, and Grievous in lightsaber combat--Along with going toe to toe with Anakin--Also widely outstrip Cade's skill feats, which is based almost solely on overpowering Talon, and stalemating the weakened Krayt.
Ultimately my vote is with Obi-Wan, though. He's much more experienced and cunning, which paired with superior skill is more than enough to compensate for Cade's advantages, many of which aren't applicable here.
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No starfighter, even from some distance it was pretty big, a couple times Cade's height, more likely a shuttle or light freighter. And not just pulled out of the mud and moved a bit, but properly thrown.
Defeating Darth Nihl (slicing off his arm), clashes with Shado Vao, Darth Stryfe (Cade had fun with him but had more important matters), Imperial Knight Antares Draco, as well as killing a very large number of sith, including cyborg-enhanced Sith Troopers.
Rakghouls, the best anzati Black Sun assassins a moff could buy, buncha Hutt combat droids in a trap....
The weakened Krayt kicked his ass, btw. He fought well much later against the restored Krayt who's power had 'multiplied' (in Krayt's own words).
A guy is the main character of a 56 issue series, he gets some combat feats