I could see a stalemate situation happening. I can see Wolverine scratching the heck out of Colossus but can he impale him deep enough to stop a fight? Not sure, he's strong enough to do that. Wolverine could be bfr'ed or concussed like the WWH fight but he should be too quick for Colossus to catch and there's like a nearly zero chance that Colossus is tagging Spiderman. Spidey is just annoying in this fight. So the question is...can Wolverine with his barely superhuman strength impale Colossus deeply?
No, he can eventually cut through his skin if he goes after the same spots, but Pete'll tag him eventually, and one clean hit, or a grab is all he needs for a BFR. All Colossus has to do is let Spidey tire himself out, then squash him like the arachnid he's named after.
agreed with Mindset, bfr is not an option here. Also Colossus is not hitting Parker. And if Logan isnt strong enough to cut Piotr, Parker definitely is. Spider can distract Colossus with a webbing and then "borrow" Logan's claws and stab Piotr using his strength. Class 10 + adamantium claws ftw.
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im tired of seeing logan get disrespected and his skill and attitude ignored. i take it that logan would be aware of this tactic and spidey wont just grab him and treat him like a baseball bat ala luke cage.
personally logan's cis should have kicked in and stabbed luke for a ko for doing that to him.
But you're not tired of seeing Spidey get disrespected in all the VS MA threads you make? also no disrespect was intended, spider doesnt need to grab him against his will, they work as a team just fine. They both jump in the air, logan point his claws at Piotr, spidey grabs his wrists and gives him a strength boost when claws connect. Also that Cage moment isnt canon to 616, that was marvel adventures i think. Logan never stabbed anyone there at all
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spidey is different he was never written as a competent fighter... he should lose against most ppl if he tries to hold his ground and fight them h2h. spidey's best advantage is his spidey style fighting.
so it doesnt bother me when gets made a fool for trying to play the MA'ers game.
logan from the 1st day out has bn shown to be a competent high end MA figher, brawler blk ops.... who takes guff from no one not even his friends but ppl have ignored a lot of what made logan, logan.
Spidey biggest advantage is his speed, not fighting style, its superior to almost any comix street leveler plus his ss. Also, the hell are u talking about? Spider has always been written as capable of hanging with trained MA fighter in h2h because of his fighting skills even while holdin back, his fights with iron fist is a good example. As for what he should and shouldnt be able to win ask daredevil, kingpin, bullseye, deadpool and taskmaster how much their ma skills helped them against pissed off spiderman..
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Except Spiderman made his own unorthodox style, so that's not necessarily true, and Wolverine hardly uses his vaunted "MA" in every fight, where is it shown on a consistent basis? Does he use it own Rulk, no? Sabes? No.
He is just a popular character who has MA training, but he doesn't use it all the time. A lot of Spiderman's moves look fancier, when shown in the comic. It's more about the foundation. Anybody who has been fighting for decades has it. And MA doesn't even equal fighting ability, fighting well equals fighting ability, anybody who has survived thousands of fights has it. A person can sit in a dojo all his life and have never been in a fight, doesn't mean a whole lot. I had a lot of this discussion in 05 about fighting proficiency vs fighter efficiency. Put a man against a Polar bear and even though he might have more skills, the bear is the better fighter because he will win. Every single time in a h2h fight.
But *anyways* I think Colossus overtakes the two in a serious fight, doesn't seem like there is a lot they could do to him. Wolverine doesn't seem to have the necessary strength to penetrate his skin.
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Spider-man Can grab wolverine around the ankles and swing him like a living sword thus giving wolverines claws the momentum they need to lop off limbs. How can collossus defend himself from that? This tactic is easy for the two of them to employ repeatedly and they'd probably get really slick with it after a few tries, something like wolverine leaping towards spider-man and spidey multiplies the leaps momentum with a web slingshot spin. Then Wolverines decades of experience should guarantee a fatality with bloodlust on.
I'll say it again, Pete focuses on Wolverine, and once he takes him down, he lets Spidey tire himself out jumping around like a mad man, then he ends him.
Colossus can beat Logan, he will wait until Parker gasses out, then KO FTW....it would be a long fight. Team could win if a fastball special from the team works.
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also no disrespect was intended, spider doesnt need to grab him against his will, they work as a team just fine. They both jump in the air, logan point his claws at Piotr, spidey grabs his wrists and gives him a strength boost when claws connect. Also that Cage moment isnt canon to 616, that was marvel adventures i think. Logan never stabbed anyone there at all 
