Movie versions, Dr. Doom vs. Kurse? Kurse should win, handily. He beat the crud out of Thor, thats more than stalemating the FF. Now if this were Doom amped with the Power Cosmic, as in FF2, thats a different story.
Doom took Johnny's nova flame, and didn't even seem all that bothered by it. It was being rapidly cooled that locked his joints into place. And when they were measuring Johnny's flames, he was approaching Sun temperatures before they had to extinguish him. No one stopped him from pushing his limits against Doom, so those flames were probably much hotter. As for Kurse, the guy beasted through all the Asgardians that got in his way, including Thor, so I don't think there is much of a chance of Doom hurting him in any meaningful way.
I can see Kurse smacking Doom around the whole day, because he has a clear strength advantage, but can he actually KO him for a win?
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I checked all of Doom's durability feats from the films. The level of damage he tanks is quite absurd. He takes Susan's blasts, that pretty much destroy the wall and windows behind him, and barely stumbled. Then, while fighting the Thing, gets smashed into a wall and has a giant metal board collapse on him, and it slows him down for a few seconds. Both later fall several stories twice, and they both keep fighting while this happens. He also gets hit by a car, thrown by the Thing. This impact is so hard that it sends him and the car flying a couple dozen feet into a bus, and in turn sends that bus skidding a good 50 feet further. And the impact knocked him through the side of the bus, as he steps through the doors. And none of this fazed him. Then of course the nova flame, to which he comments, "Is that the best you can do, a little heat?"
There is also a weird feat in FF2. The blast from the Surfer literally blows him to atoms, which reassemble almost instantly. And given that he'd just blasted the Surfer in the back, resulting in the Surfer looking quite pissed, I somehow doubt the intention of the return blast was to heal Doom. And right at the end of the film, after Johnny destroys the wrist mounted controller for the board, Ben knocks him with a huge ass bar connected to an enormous crane. The impact sends him flying at least several hundred meters, and it doesn't KO or seem to seriously damage him, as we can see his limbs visibly flailing as he sinks.
This is why I am having doubts about him being seriously damaged or KOd. The only thing that had any visible effect on him was the Johnny's fire, and that on its own couldn't stop him.
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Not really. Thing has one really massive strength feat. The London Eye feat from FF2. In the scene, we can see Sue, from one side, and Reed, from the other, using their abilities to keep the Eye level. But the Thing is actually the one doing the lifting. And the London Eye weighs about 2100 tons. So even if we are generous to Sue and Reed and say they lifted a third of the mass each (which they didn't, going by what we see on screen), that still means Ben lifted 700 tons over his head. Neither Thor, nor even the Hulk, has a strength feat to match that.
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Last edited by TheVaultDweller on Jul 20th, 2014 at 05:22 AM
Agreed 100% in terms of feats Thor and Hulk have crap lifting feats. I've never cared about them TBH. However I would never say that a lift feat from thing could take the win from Hulk in say a Thing vs Hulk fight.
True, but, in a match up like that, strength would just be one factor. Movie Thing is massively strong, but extremely slow and clunky. Hulk easily trumps him in speed and agility.
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Yea, it would be like a professional bodybuilder trying to fight a professional boxer, the body builder might be stronger in lifts, but the boxer is going to destroy him.
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