KMC Forums - Martial arts aginst raw power.

I want to make iot clear ! Anybody with the proper training can perform Jedi martials arts.

So let's begin...It is clear to me that sidious is total shitty martial artist, he have been good when he was young, but in RotS when he take his light saber it have been decade since he doesn't put his hand on that hidden lightsaber.... It is clear that he hadn't pratice in year, and he have been focusing on his grand sheme..

In The fight against windu he could have won, but it clearly would have taken some really high amount of darkside energy making some heavy degradation of his body.. Mace windu could not keep up with Sidious if sidious have chosen teh hard way, because this is the first time that mace is using the superconducting loop, and he obviously cannot keep up with Palpatine insane rage..

But it would have been super hard for palpatine ! And Obviously palpa as lazy as he is would never make that decision... He choose the easiest way, the chemer way and lure anakin into the Dark side completing that objective...

Dooku V.Sidious light saber only...

It is undeniable that Dooku is the best martial artist he is a linear fencer cappble of dodgig paring any attack throw at him and pierce any defences...
Ad toà this an excellent footwork that allow him to always front his opponent.. Since he know about his weakness to flanking.... This self awarness manifest in TWC and in the moovies by having him dancing.. You see Obiwan kenobi attempting to go his back resulting in them circling before the engagement.. There is always a secene where Obiwan or anakin is, let me attack you on you right flank, and dooku is just nope you don't.
And his opponent is are you gonna stop facing me one day.
And Dooku is like never...

To resume you just cannot flank Dooku, if you are not fast enough ---> Yoda speed level...

Well so how an engagement of sidious and Dooku in a pure light saber gonna work.. Well sidious knowing dooku will just attack dooku in the back before he can react or understand that the engament has begun, Sidious is fast enough, and a beat of a cheater... He do not play fair... Aginst some random Jedi he will be tempted to toy with them... Even if the Jedi in question have a purple light-saber.. No matter how stupid it is..
But against a guy like dooku Sidious will not even wait that Dooku is ready..
This is the problem with Sidious he try some super fancy tricks just for the fun and because he can... he cead to his lust he go full berserk.. But in the other hand if he realize the threat he can be serious.. But he also can be stupid in some serious situation, Sidious is just random, unpredictibleis battle he is just total chaos... He is form VII....

So sidious win.. But without the force Dooku still a decent fighter, where sidious + having no skill at all (some Jedi martial art knowledge but no skill) is just a walking corpse with testicule in his face, he cannot even run ! (He haven't run since he was a yong boy on Naboo...)...
But sidious still win because in light saber battle skill and raw power work together....

On of teh ebst example would be Revan Darth Traya or even Tulak hord... Those have in my opinion, devlopped skill and technics base on the force that help them in their light-saber sequences... Tulak hord and Revan have devlopped their precgnition and force speed at max level. Revan and Kreia have devlopped their light saber throw (I love this moment at the end of KotOR II where Darth Traya is back Darth Sion try to stp her, and Darth Traya begin to choke him and say : "You will never learn the lesson, there is more strengh in my hand than in all the muscles of your entire body !")
Satele Shand And Revan have devlopped their tutaminis at the point that they can tank lightsaber (Satele use pure tutaminis Revan use multiple defensive walls...)
Starkiller can channel unleash lightning within his lightsaber strikes...

They have devlopped martial arts within the force ! They are even close combat martials arts base on Telekinesis !!

Revan is a better martial artist than Dooku And Malak combine..

But without the force, it is clear that Revan do not equal a single one of them...
Malak and Revan had a great despise for weakness, And revan try to solve this problem of overreliance on the force, but he just clearly fail physycally speaking, intellectually he succed, but in term of physical ability the ebst he could do is using sith alchemmy and Rakatta technology to boost his physical abilities and he still heavly rely on force amp...

Sorry if it was confuse in the overall, I had too many thing to say.. But i wanted to point some few facts rather than making an exposey, and each part take individualy make sens....