Selenial
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Talzin and Maul vs Sidious and Dooku
Fight takes place in the same area as in Som of Dathomir issue 4.
No Grevious to get in the way here, who wins?
IMO, Maul holds off Sidious a-la Mandalore, and Talzin rapes Dooku with Force drain before turning to Sidious.
Using Mauls power she overwhelms his Lightning and that's that.
But interested to see y'all's thoughts.
Aug 20th, 2014 05:07 PM
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Sidious speedblitz them both lol jk. interesting match up. i'll need to finish the issue before i make a call though.
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Aug 20th, 2014 05:16 PM
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Talzin has solidified herself as the #3 of the era with her feats. Very impressive.
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Aug 20th, 2014 05:18 PM
Trocity
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Team 2
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Aug 20th, 2014 07:39 PM
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I'm leaning team two. Talzin seemed to not think they would hold out for much longer, even before Grievous stepped in.
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Aug 20th, 2014 07:42 PM
Nephthys
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Sidious > Talzin, Dooku > Maul. Team Human ftw.
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Aug 20th, 2014 07:54 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Emperordmb
I'm leaning team two. Talzin seemed to not think they would hold out for much longer, even before Grievous stepped in.
Emperor pretty much said everything i wanted to say. team two takes the victory.
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Aug 20th, 2014 08:13 PM
Marco1907
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team 1 only can win via prep time, a voodoo spell on sidious or another trick, talzin can't take sidious alone as we see in last chapter,
though maul can defeat dooku but as i said, sidious is the problem here.
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Aug 20th, 2014 08:24 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Marco1907
though maul can defeat dooku
Possible, but unlikely
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Aug 20th, 2014 08:27 PM
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Why can't Talzin take on Sidious? She sort of just did.
And yes she said they couldn't last longer, but they would never have gotten ino that bad of a position had Grevious not distracted Maul...
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Aug 20th, 2014 08:27 PM
ares834
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Not sure what the point of this is when Team 2 was just shown as being the superior team....
Aug 20th, 2014 08:48 PM
Marco1907
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Trocity
Possible, but unlikely
Maul has serious advantages, unless Dooku shoots him via force lightning (I am sure Maul can deflect it with lightsaber) I don't see Dooku is winning.
Dooku's makashi is weak against physical attacks, and physical attacks in mid duel is Maul's speciality.
As for TK, I don't see Dooku beating him via TK either, Maul's TK powers has grown powerful in TCW as well.
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Aug 20th, 2014 08:50 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by ares834
Not sure what the point of this is when Team 2 was just shown as being the superior team....
Again, because Grevious took Maul out of the picture for a while and allowed Talzin to lose the tactical advantage.
If she hadn't got in a position where Sidious and Dooku were both pumelling her with Lighting they could have won.
Maybe.
Aug 20th, 2014 08:52 PM
Nalaniel
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Team 1 can only win with preparation.
Aug 20th, 2014 09:01 PM
ares834
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While Maul was taking care of Greivous Dooku was still recovering from being hit by lightning. Ultimately, Maul helps Talzin before Dooku helps Sidious.
Aug 20th, 2014 09:02 PM
Nephthys
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Marco1907
Maul has serious advantages, unless Dooku shoots him via force lightning (I am sure Maul can deflect it with lightsaber) I don't see Dooku is winning.
Does Maul actually have a lightsaber though? If he's using the Darksaber.....
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Marco1907
Dooku's makashi is weak against physical attacks, and physical attacks in mid duel is Maul's speciality.
Nah, it's not "weak" to it. And Dooku has the speed advantage regardless.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Marco1907
As for TK, I don't see Dooku beating him via TK either, Maul's TK powers has grown powerful in TCW as well.
You can see my expansive analyse at my signature.
Dooku still has the edge there.
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Aug 20th, 2014 09:02 PM
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@Nephthys
Dooku & Maul's speed feats are matches. Dooku is not faster than Maul.
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Aug 20th, 2014 09:11 PM
Nephthys
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Dooku went head to head with Yoda, whereas Sidious toyed with Maul. Maul isn't even faster than Obi-Wan, who the Count is faster than by all accounts.
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Aug 20th, 2014 09:13 PM
Nalaniel
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Dooku was always able to casually get rid of Obi-Wan, whereas Maul wasn't always able to force own him.
Aug 20th, 2014 09:21 PM
Marco1907
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Nephthys
Dooku went head to head with Yoda, whereas Sidious toyed with Maul. Maul isn't even faster than Obi-Wan, who the Count is faster than by all accounts.
Lol. Yoda didn't toyed with Dooku but Sidious toyed with Maul ?
Alright.
And who said Maul is not faster than Obi-Wan ?
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Nalaniel
Dooku was always able to casually get rid of Obi-Wan, whereas Maul wasn't always able to force own him.
Obi-Wan has no tool to threat Dooku, Obi-Wan's defensive technique (soresu) is completely useless against Dooku's fencing style (makashi).
Which is why, Anakin defeated Dooku but failed at Obi-Wan, while Obi-Wan failed at Dooku but defeated Anakin.
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