Round 1: Godzilla + 2 Muto's vs. Class 5 kaiju + 2 class 4 kaiju
Round 2. Godzilla + 2 Muto's vs. Gipsy Danger, Stryker Eureka and Cherno Alpha (in this fight, Stryker Eureka is immune to emp)
Godzilla solos. One nuke almost killed the level 5. Its not going to do well against atomic breath, nevermind any of the lower levels. They also cant hurt him, since he's tanked nukes himself.
To be fair, the nuke that hit that Class 5 was a modern day nuke, made during a time when we have enough technology to build bigass robots. Quite different from the nuke that hit Goji in the 1950's.
That's because Gipsy Danger and Cherno Alpha are already immune to EMP due to them having nuclear reactors. Only Eureka is susceptible to EMP and thus only he needs special attention.
Even the Godzilla 2014 is weaker than the heisei version he weighs in at 90,000 metric tons. No one here is even budging him or hurting him. Even though he is around the same height. He weighs more than all of them together. He is slower, but once he get ahold of them they're done.
I'll note according to the screenwriter, it took *three* nukes to kill the first Kaiju. The comic also shows it being nuked.
Slattern took not just a nuke, but a 1.2 megaton strait to the face. That's really, really impressive.
Take a look at how they move and the damage dealt to buildings- power output is comparable. Note how a building support was sufficient to *impale* the small Muto, Heck, Jaegers sink, Godzilla floats, Kaiju of almost the exact same volume as Godzilla also float (which as physics tells you, means similar density).
The mass numbers are bunk. G vs Jaegers or PR Kaiju would be a good fight.
Godzilla would certainly be a high cat, to be sure, and it's breadth a big threat.
The MaleMuto is pretty much a cat 1 + flight. The female would be a bulky Cat 4, but a Kaiju like Otachi with it's acid and tail would hold the edge one-on-one.
Round 1- Kaiju win. The male Muto is a weak link, and some Cat 4s can beat the female for that matter. Godzilla's really tough, but a Cat 5 is bigger and has those nasty tails for reach. First maleMuto falls, then female, then finally Godzilla is overwhelmed.
Round 2- This one's definitely tougher, with a lot less mass on the PR side than the kaiju in round 1. The bladed weapons will definitely be a help, but Godzilla's breath is a big equalizer, and both he and the female can take a lot of damage. The male will fall first again- arms with swords are good defense against him, plus they have guns- but it'll take work to put down the female, and running out of special anti-Kaiju ammo may be a concern (Striker can only do 3 volleys total).
By the time it comes to Godzilla vs the remaining Jaegers, the Jaegers will likely be in bad shape, unless they can drop the Mutos fast (with the male, quite possible, a good sword slash should do). How good of shape they're in and how many are still standing matters.
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Re: Godzilla (2014) vs. Pacific Rim
This is a good one.
Round 1: I may give this one to the kaiju. Godzilla only tanked kiloton nukes according to the film. Slattern tanked a straight up megaton nuke (while underwater, increasing the nuke's impact). Maybe they could handle one or 2, but 4 Slatterns? I feel Godzilla and Friends are at a disadvantage. IDK how effective heat vision will be against Slattern, as it was only used against the MUTO's and did jack shit to the MUTO's hide the first time, which is why is had to be breathed directly in to her mouth. Slattern also had tails it can use as spears, which at the very least will probably kill the male MUTO. Otachi (a class 4) also has a flight and acidic saliva advantage, although the acids effectiveness here is arguable. TBF, the female MUTO has a flight advantage as well.
Round 2: This is a tougher one to decide. Jaegers are incredibly durable, especially considering Gypsy tanked an underwater megaton nuke. They have nuclear cannons and heated blades. But Godzilla's atomic breath may be effective (although IDK considering Gypsy tanked the nuke), and Godzilla may be able to rip them apart by biting through them. I also imagine a tail slam would be rather devastating. Female MUTO's flight advantage may also be a bane to the Jaegers, although they could possibly slice it like Otachi.
Overall, I'll give it to PR both rounds 7.5/10. Jaegers/Kaiju can tank megaton nukes, whereas Godzilla was only confirmed to tank kiloton nukes. Based on screenfeats/exposition, PR is more powerful than the monsters of '14 Godzilla.
This is no contest and been done to death. This Godzilla easily tanked the Castle Bravo Nuke which is 14 megatons. This was confirmed as the Castle Bravo due by movie footage and by the prequel comic for the movie called Awakening. The unreliable comment of GZ tanking a simple kiloton nuke was just that. A unreliable comment from a side character who had no bearing on the expertise of what went down. The nuke that destroyed Striker and nearly killed class 5 Kaiju was confirmed less than 2 megatons.
So how can the Jaegers harm GZ?
Add in the fact GZ weighs 90000 tons to the less than 10000 ton Jaegers mean they get rag doll easy.
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Godzilla is the strongest combatant here... and the male muto the weakest (he got impaled on a building support!).
It depends partially on the cat 4s- Ideally I'd put Otachi and Scunner. Scunner's head blades means it can deliver large goring wounds to the mutos (who have relatively short reach), and Otachi's acid is nasty. In this case, what'll happen is MaleMuto will die, female will be ganged up on, and then two moderately bloody Kaiju will join in on Godzilla. Slattern the cat 5 will likely be on it's last legs by that point, but we've already seen teamwork can mess Godzilla up and wear him down.
For the worst selection of cat 4s, Leatherback and Raiju. Neither has the range advantage of acid, nor the big blade head. MaleMuto will still die relatively fast, but it'll take a lot more effort to take down the female. Godzilla may have beaten Slattern by that point. If the female Muto dies first, the kaiju should win, but if Slattern dies first, Godzilla's team wins.
One of the advantages here against the Mutos specifically is the Kaiju are designed as weapons. Meaning, they have large natural weapons with reach or other advantages, not just bulk and small claws and teeth. They pretty much ignore damage, if you rip off a limb it'll take a bit to shake it off but the kaiju will keep fighting, they use some teamwork and they don't get distracting.
Knifehead the cat 3 would be a big threat to the female Muto because he has a large blade that can reach organs, so is dangerous despite being smaller. On the flip side, we saw the maleMuto could only inflict pretty small annoyance wounds on Godzilla. MaleMuto's basically cat 1-2 equivalent, with flight. Female is the size of a cat 5, but a less dangerous one than Slattern, largely relying on size and brute strength (and Slattern's bigger, speedier, and has reach).
Godzilla, on the flip side, of course is better equipped in the natural weapons department, so that doesn't really apply to the G vs Kaiju as much. Godzilla is like a particularly dangerous cat 5, as big as Slattern, a bit slower, but with a great ranged attack!
This'll be a more furious, faster battle, the Jaegers aren't as tough as the biggest cat 4s or any cat 5, but have more offense that they dish out faster.
I think swords, ranged attacks, etc. help make up for the smaller size. mMuto is dying fast to either Gipsy's sword or Striker's sting blades. Female Muto dies to a combination of anti-kaiju missiles and plasma fire or maybe deep sword stabs. Cherno likely dies holding off Godzilla. Then the remaining two go against Godzilla and.. I dunno, might be able to dish out damage fast enough, perhaps Gipsy hugging and doing the nuclear turbine, but the atomic breath will really do a number on them, Godzilla stands a nice chance of being the last one standing.
One real possibility is Striker expends all of it's missiles (it can only deal 3 volleys, and it wouldn't surprise me if the female Muto lasted for two), and hurts Godzilla, but then by that point the team's too depleted and damaged to follow through.
A 1.2 megaton nuke at pretty much point blank and it was still in pretty good combat shape. The most recorded nukes needed to kill a kaiju is three (smaller ones, but that tells you something). Also, he eats radiation and they don't, we don't know how long he spent recovering from them. Also-also, maleMuto died to something that wouldn't kill a Kaiju or Jaeger (the impact where he died made a relatively small hole in a building and a support went all the way through- showing he's fairly vulnerable to stabbing).
G14's atomic breath hasn't really been shown to be nuclear bomb level itself, or at least not *megaton* nuclear bomb. It pushed back fMuto from the outside the first time, and only did major damage the second time, used internally.
Plasma guns, anti-kaiju missiles, giant swords, etc. should all work, even if they aren't per-hit as strong.
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