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Loki vs Juggernaunt

Loki

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Fight in Times Square

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Loki can't hurt Cain, but Cain can wear Loki down.

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What if he has Gungir or the Casket?

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Heimdall broke free from the ice, stands to reason Cain could as well.

As for Gungnir, all I remember is it one shotted a bunch of Ice Giants. But Juggs is a whole lot more durable than them. It'd probably sit him down, but not stop him.

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can loki lift the juggs and keep him from touching the ground (can't remember any feats for it). if so loki could smash him against things until he dies or drown him

i know comic juggernaut doesnt even need to blink or breath so what about X-Men 3 juggernaut ?


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can loki lift the juggs and keep him from touching the ground (can't remember any feats for it). if so loki could smash him against things until he dies or drown him

i know comic juggernaut doesnt even need to blink or breath so what about X-Men 3 juggernaut ?


Jugs doest seem to be affected like that and I doubt Loki could get his paws on him. Jugs strength is easily at Thor level.

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Loki also doesn't have any sort of telekinetic abilities I'm aware of. He had that little force pulse in Dark World, but I don't remember any legit TK feats. Certainly nothing powerful enough to lift a guy who stepped on an APC and crumpled it like cookie dough.

Even if he could, physical force is clearly not the way to go against Cain, and Loki wouldn't be strong enough anyway.

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Well it's either a win for a jugs or stalemate

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Yeah. Loki could play keep away with his powers and illusions.

But I haven't seen anything from him in 3 movies to suggest he can take down Juggernaut in a straight up fight.

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If Loki gets the casket then he has a chance at winning. Without it I don't see what he can do against Juggs.


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If Loki gets the casket then he has a chance at winning. Without it I don't see what he can do against Juggs.


True but King made a good point is Heimdall could do it, Jugg could easily. I think Gungir might do some damage though. That shit was wicked.

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Even if the casket does fully freeze him, I doubt it'll be long enough before he breaks out for it to count as a win.

And Gungnir if I recall is pretty uber. But the damage it does may only be temporary. I say may because we saw how either Cain is so durable even molecular fusing doesn't work(Kitty trying to phase him into the floor, which should have riddled him with concrete in his body), or he just heals so damn fast it's instant.

And his HF is powerful enough to expel foreign objects from his body. But it seems to be the former as he didn't even show any pain when she phased him. In the deleted scenes he did show that level of healing though, even beyond Wolverine.

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True but King made a good point is Heimdall could do it, Jugg could easily. I think Gungir might do some damage though. That shit was wicked.


Yes but you have to consider that Loki only exposed Heimdall to the casket for a short time. Once immobile, Loki left Heimdall alone. Now if Loki kept pointing that casket at Juggs over a prolonged period of time, I'm betting that it will freeze him enough to just shatter him.


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Probably not enough to shatter him but maybe enough to keep him immobile enough to count as a win


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Movie Juggernaut was not on the level of Thor, he was nowhere close to him.

His best feats were throwing Wolverine through the house and running through the walls.

I think a full weaponed Loki could do some damage to him.


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His best feat is stepping on a 20+ ton APC and crumpling it as a side effect.

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His best feat is stepping on a 20+ ton APC and crumpling it as a side effect.
If I remember correctly he only dented the top of it. BReaking out of the concrete was good as well. Still nothing even remotely approaching Thor or Hulk in terms of strength. I still think Loki would give him a run for his money if not out right beat him especially with his weapons.


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Well if Loki's daggers are strong enough to stab through Thor without apparent difficulty, I'm thinking it should be strong enough to damage Juggernaut. Not sure how much but I'm pretty sure he's not getting away unscathed.


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Either he'll be completely unhurt. Or he'll heal in moments. Not sure how that will help Loki any.

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Either he'll be completely unhurt. Or he'll heal in moments. Not sure how that will help Loki any.


Do we have proof of his supposedly super healing capabilities? And when you have weapons made to kill and hurt Asgardians, Dark Elves, Frost Giants etc... I think it's a bit of a stretch to simply claim Juggs will be unhurt without any proof. Considering that Asgardians have shown to be bullet proof and all.


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