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DC's Alien Gods Vs Marvel's Dark Gods

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Dark Gods probably win unless we associate the martain god with Dream as established in Sandman; or if we buy into Rao's creation story (which i personally don't)

Hawk god isn't much of challenge, X'hal could prove a problem, but given that that the dark gods neutralized Odin (and managed to manipulate Zeus' mind) i don't think it's enough.

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Dark Gods probably win unless we associate the martain god with Dream as established in Sandman; or if we buy into Rao's creation story (which i personally don't)

Hawk god isn't much of challenge, X'hal could prove a problem, but given that that the dark gods neutralized Odin (and managed to manipulate Zeus' mind) i don't think it's enough.


When was the Martian God associated with Morpheus?

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When I saw DC alien gods I thoughtmof Lord Synnar demiurge, Lady Styx, and Onimar Synn etc. Aside from Rao and Xhal thease guys are mostly featless. And honestly Xhal's frats are varied. Someones going to have to educate me on the Marvel gods mm in question

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Originally posted by Golgo13
When was the Martian God associated with Morpheus?


In Sandman v2 #5:

http://i.imgur.com/I3J29Eg.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/6BNqTF0.jpg

Which basically implies every god is a manifestation of the endless. Same thing applies to the supreme being. God is usually called "The Presence", but Martians call it the "unnameable one" (referenced in Martian Manhunter v1 #4).


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When I saw DC alien gods I thoughtmof Lord Synnar demiurge, Lady Styx, and Onimar Synn etc. Aside from Rao and Xhal thease guys are mostly featless. And honestly Xhal's frats are varied. Someones going to have to educate me on the Marvel gods mm in question


That's N52 X'hal in the pic. And she was above individual Guardians - it took several of them to subdue her. She also casually destroyed a planet and knocked around a small army of godkillers.

And even pre-FP/pre-Crisis (Same thing, continuity stayed the same), X'hal was able to destroy at least 4 planets easily, and save 23 worlds from quake bombs simultaneously. That's not even mentioning what Auron did (who possess a portion of X'hal's power). Id rather stick feats directly of her, but Auron's are also applicable and they are quite impressive.

Rao stalemated Cythonna who was at least trans-level. That's setting the creation story aside.


The Dark Gods conquered all of Asgard and imprisoned Odin. One of them managed to mindrape Zeus into thinking that Odin destroyed Olympus. Another one managed to break Mjolnir and later on managed to give OF Thor a fight.

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In Sandman v2 #5:

http://i.imgur.com/I3J29Eg.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/6BNqTF0.jpg

Which basically implies every god is a manifestation of the endless. Same thing applies to the supreme being. God is usually called "The Presence", but Martians call it the "unnameable one" (referenced in Martian Manhunter v1 #4).




That's N52 X'hal in the pic. And she was above individual Guardians - it took several of them to subdue her. She also casually destroyed a planet and knocked around a small army of godkillers.

And even pre-FP/pre-Crisis (Same thing, continuity stayed the same), X'hal was able to destroy at least 4 planets easily, and save 23 worlds from quake bombs simultaneously. That's not even mentioning what Auron did (who possess a portion of X'hal's power). Id rather stick feats directly of her, but Auron's are also applicable and they are quite impressive.

Rao stalemated Cythonna who was at least trans-level. That's setting the creation story aside.


The Dark Gods conquered all of Asgard and imprisoned Odin. One of them managed to mindrape Zeus into thinking that Odin destroyed Olympus. Another one managed to break Mjolnir and later on managed to give OF Thor a fight.


Sweet!

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Originally posted by operator616
In Sandman v2 #5:

http://i.imgur.com/I3J29Eg.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/6BNqTF0.jpg

Which basically implies every god is a manifestation of the endless. Same thing applies to the supreme being. God is usually called "The Presence", but Martians call it the "unnameable one" (referenced in Martian Manhunter v1 #4).




That's N52 X'hal in the pic. And she was above individual Guardians - it took several of them to subdue her. She also casually destroyed a planet and knocked around a small army of godkillers.

And even pre-FP/pre-Crisis (Same thing, continuity stayed the same), X'hal was able to destroy at least 4 planets easily, and save 23 worlds from quake bombs simultaneously. That's not even mentioning what Auron did (who possess a portion of X'hal's power). Id rather stick feats directly of her, but Auron's are also applicable and they are quite impressive.

Rao stalemated Cythonna who was at least trans-level. That's setting the creation story aside.


The Dark Gods conquered all of Asgard and imprisoned Odin. One of them managed to mindrape Zeus into thinking that Odin destroyed Olympus. Another one managed to break Mjolnir and later on managed to give OF Thor a fight.

Yeah that's why I said they were the only two with feats (though honestly not up on nu52 since the canned demon knights except earth 2 and a couple issues behind in that). When I spoke of her feats being varied I was thinking of how she couldn't help the Tamarians vs a Psion threat in TT and a few other highly inconsistent showings that never gelled for me.

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In Sandman v2 #5:

http://i.imgur.com/I3J29Eg.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/6BNqTF0.jpg

Which basically implies every god is a manifestation of the endless. Same thing applies to the supreme being. God is usually called "The Presence", but Martians call it the "unnameable one" (referenced in Martian Manhunter v1 #4).




That's N52 X'hal in the pic. And she was above individual Guardians - it took several of them to subdue her. She also casually destroyed a planet and knocked around a small army of godkillers.

And even pre-FP/pre-Crisis (Same thing, continuity stayed the same), X'hal was able to destroy at least 4 planets easily, and save 23 worlds from quake bombs simultaneously. That's not even mentioning what Auron did (who possess a portion of X'hal's power). Id rather stick feats directly of her, but Auron's are also applicable and they are quite impressive.

Rao stalemated Cythonna who was at least trans-level. That's setting the creation story aside.


The Dark Gods conquered all of Asgard and imprisoned Odin. One of them managed to mindrape Zeus into thinking that Odin destroyed Olympus. Another one managed to break Mjolnir and later on managed to give OF Thor a fight.


I was under the impression that Cythonna was a sky father level being. Non of the other Kryptonian gods were able to destroy her. Maybe the only reason she could be below skyfather is because of her sun fire weakness.

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Yeah that's why I said they were the only two with feats (though honestly not up on nu52 since the canned demon knights except earth 2 and a couple issues behind in that). When I spoke of her feats being varied I was thinking of how she couldn't help the Tamarians vs a Psion threat in TT and a few other highly inconsistent showings that never gelled for me.


My mistake. Somehow i didn't pay attention to the "aside from" part of your post, so i thought you said that Rao and X'hal are featless. Which is why i specifically listed their feats.

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I was under the impression that Cythonna was a sky father level being. Non of the other Kryptonian gods were able to destroy her. Maybe the only reason she could be below skyfather is because of her sun fire weakness.


Given that we don't really know the kryptonian gods' exact power levels, we can't really say how impressive a feat for Cythonna it is. And remember that she was still imprisoned.

And i don't think her weakness is limited to the sun. Since she is a cold/ice goddess, i think she has a weakness to all forms of heat; which is one hell of a weakness if you ask me.

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