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Captain Britain & Psylocke vs. Drax & Gamora

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Dumb drax? If not Britain solos


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Gamora would beat the life out of Brian. Believe it.


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Naw


He's too clunky in his movements. Gamora would be all over him in seconds tearing him apart, and he wouldn't lay a finger on her. Look at how she dealt with a Maxam. Max would cave Brian's chest in. yes When Brian fought Betsy, he couldn't lay a glove on her, and that was at a time when he had both eyes. Gamora would see that she could repeatedly slap him in his head with no response from him. Whap... You like that sh!t? What... want some more? Whap! She'd tee off on him. Betsy knows she don't want none of Gams, so she'd play booty tag with Drax.


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Iirc didn't brian beat his sis solidly


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He's too clunky in his movements. Gamora would be all over him in seconds tearing him apart, and he wouldn't lay a finger on her. Look at how she dealt with a Maxam. Max would cave Brian's chest in. yes When Brian fought Betsy, he couldn't lay a glove on her, and that was at a time when he had both eyes. Gamora would see that she could repeatedly slap him in his head with no response from him. Whap... You like that sh!t? What... want some more? Whap! She'd tee off on him. Betsy knows she don't want none of Gams, so she'd play booty tag with Drax.

That's old as phuck.

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Iirc didn't brian beat his sis solidly


Not that I know of? When are you talking about? I though Brian had a very hard time even laying a hand on her, while she lacked the power to hurt him. They pretty much stalemated from what I recall.

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That's old as phuck.

Stay up to date on CB.


This isn't Pre Crisis. What's old to us isn't old in a comic. Look at how old Franklin Richards is. That boy is still nearly the same age that he was when I was a boy. I bet if you had children right now, that they'd grow up before Franklin did and have children of their own, before he turns 25 yrs old. When did Brian learn to fight with skill on Gamora's level? She would turn him out. She may even one shot him with a nerve strike to the neck.

Gamora beat the hell out of Ronan, and Ronan had easily dealt with Stellaris. So what is half blind Brian going to do when Gamora is dancing on his face, and tagging him like she did to Thanos? Thanos likely has superior movement speed in comparison to Brian, and he couldn't lay a glove on her.


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Betsy knows she don't want none of Gams, so she'd play booty tag with Drax.

Psylocke is allowed to use telepathy here. She'd probably blow Gamora right out the water.

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Psylocke is allowed to use telepathy here. She'd probably blow Gamora right out the water.


Didn't Gamora already deal with Betsy? I thought she one shot put her on her behind?


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I don't think they've fought each other before.

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Not that I know of? When are you talking about? I though Brian had a very hard time even laying a hand on her, while she lacked the power to hurt him. They pretty much stalemated from what I recall.



This isn't Pre Crisis. What's old to us isn't old in a comic. Look at how old Franklin Richards is. That boy is still nearly the same age that he was when I was a boy. I bet if you had children right now, that they'd grow up before Franklin did and have children of their own, before he turns 25 yrs old. When did Brian learn to fight with skill on Gamora's level? She would turn him out. She may even one shot him with a nerve strike to the neck.

Gamora beat the hell out of Ronan, and Ronan had easily dealt with Stellaris. So what is half blind Brian going to do when Gamora is dancing on his face, and tagging him like she did to Thanos? Thanos likely has superior movement speed in comparison to Brian, and he couldn't lay a glove on her.


Seriously guy

Gamora and Ronan were being mindcontrolled by Glorian. She was amped as phuck, and she didn't beat him.... You've probably not read the comic, just seen scans online.

It's old and outdated because it's not relevant to current CB.


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Seriously guy

Gamora and Ronan were being mindcontrolled by Glorian. She was amped as phuck, and she didn't beat him.... You've probably not read the comic, just seen scans online.

It's old and outdated because it's not relevant to current CB.


Seriously Guy.

Was she amped as Phuck when she took on Maxam? She was also further augmented by Adam Warlock Guy. In her original form she was augmented by Thanos to rival Warlock himself, and as I mentioned, Warlock later made her even more powerful. When did Brian's combat skills increase to the level that he would even touch her in a fight? Power doesn't mean anything if you are unable to hit your mark Guy. Where are these displays that he has somehow become as good of a warrior as someone feared on a thousand planets?


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She was not amped as phuck when she fought those other guys. I'm not making a case for Gamora not having super-speed, though nice try at strawmanning.

I'm simply calling you on your repeated misuse of the annihilation fight.

I take it you never read Excalibur or Mi13 as well, if you're still clamining that Britain has no superspeed or fighting skills big grin


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She was not amped as phuck when she fought those other guys. I'm not making a case for Gamora not having super-speed, though nice try at strawmanning.

I'm simply calling you on your repeated misuse of the annihilation fight.

I take it you never read Excalibur or Mi13 as well, if you're still clamining that Britain has no superspeed or fighting skills big grin


No I did not, but I just caught up with his history. I used to follow Excaliber, and Brian was always a 2nd stringer, and never came across as a true heavy weight to me. From what I understand, his powers depend on his mental state these days, which struck me as being unstable. Gamora isn't just fast, she's incredibly strong for a character of her size. She is an accomplished gymnast, and martial artist. She learned MA skills from several planets making her incredibly deadly up close. She would see Brian like a professional fighter sees an inept amateur. There hasn't been one showing of Brian's to convince me that he can stand up to a fall out assault from Gamora. He has also lost half of his sight. What do you think that would tell a fighter of Gamora's caliber? She touched the Thing, and put him out. By feats, I believe that the Thing is tougher than Brian. I can't see one reason why she would not be able to do the same thing to him.

I did read the Annihilation comic, but I admit that I may have forgotten a detail or two, because my mind isn't stuck on every comic that I have read. I only rely on scans here, because I have no time to get into the scan every page of super feats that I have read. The respect section is flawed anyway, because it only ever shows the characters good sides. Gamora is just too slick for Brian, and it's actually a good thing that they didn't give her eye blasts, and increase her strength to class 100.

I'm not too sure about Psylocke. I may not be remembering correctly, but I thought that Gamora had a brief run in with Betsy when the Infinity Watch and Thanos fought them. One thing I am almost 100% sure about, is that Gamora would be all in Brian's a$$, and he wouldn't be able to get her off of him. She's too slick, and he wouldn't be able to resist multiple strikes from her. He probably is more powerful than she is, but again he would have to hit her.

I don't know about Drax's TP resistance, he was made to combat Thanos so he may have strong defenses against it. I can't find anything on Gamora's TP resistance, but I believe that she would take Betsy in just H2H. Drax is the wild card.


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Seriously guy

Gamora and Ronan were being mindcontrolled by Glorian. She was amped as phuck, and she didn't beat him.... You've probably not read the comic, just seen scans online.

It's old and outdated because it's not relevant to current CB.
Gamora and Ronan were manipulated by Glorian, sure, but not controlled in any sense.

She was also only 'amped' by having Godslayer, which didn't apparently increase any of her stats.

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No I did not, but I just caught up with his history. I used to follow Excaliber, and Brian was always a 2nd stringer, and never came across as a true heavy weight to me. From what I understand, his powers depend on his mental state these days, which struck me as being unstable. Gamora isn't just fast, she's incredibly strong for a character of her size. She is an accomplished gymnast, and martial artist. She learned MA skills from several planets making her incredibly deadly up close. She would see Brian like a professional fighter sees an inept amateur. There hasn't been one showing of Brian's to convince me that he can stand up to a fall out assault from Gamora. He has also lost half of his sight. What do you think that would tell a fighter of Gamora's caliber? She touched the Thing, and put him out. By feats, I believe that the Thing is tougher than Brian. I can't see one reason why she would not be able to do the same thing to him.

I did read the Annihilation comic, but I admit that I may have forgotten a detail or two, because my mind isn't stuck on every comic that I have read. I only rely on scans here, because I have no time to get into the scan every page of super feats that I have read. The respect section is flawed anyway, because it only ever shows the characters good sides. Gamora is just too slick for Brian, and it's actually a good thing that they didn't give her eye blasts, and increase her strength to class 100.

I'm not too sure about Psylocke. I may not be remembering correctly, but I thought that Gamora had a brief run in with Betsy when the Infinity Watch and Thanos fought them. One thing I am almost 100% sure about, is that Gamora would be all in Brian's a$$, and he wouldn't be able to get her off of him. She's too slick, and he wouldn't be able to resist multiple strikes from her. He probably is more powerful than she is, but again he would have to hit her.

I don't know about Drax's TP resistance, he was made to combat Thanos so he may have strong defenses against it. I can't find anything on Gamora's TP resistance, but I believe that she would take Betsy in just H2H. Drax is the wild card.


I only ask that you remember the context surrounding the fights.

Like Ronan and Stellaris, or Ronan and Gamora.

I don't need constant renderings of what you think would happen in the fight, or these gruellingly basic reminders of her powerset.

Captain Britain not the Blob. He has superhuman speed and reflexes. He's not as skilled as Gamora, nobody is, but that doesn't mean that she's somehow untouchable or that she'll endlessly dance around him. Especially not when this is actually a 2v2. Even in the highly unlikely scenario where CB could never touch her, Psylocke would still trounce her.


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Current Psylocke doesn't really employ any offensive telepathy mid-combat like she used to, and is now all about creating various medieval weaponry with TK, apparently.

For most characters, this probably wouldn't be too relevant as long as they've demonstrated powers or tactics in the past, even if they're penned as having somehow 'forgotten' those powers under their 2014 writer.

For Psylocke though, usually when she 'forgets' a power its because her whole powerset changed... shadow teleportation anyone?

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Ah, yes. Shadow porting.

Remember when her telekinesis mysteriously disappeared? Guggenheim seems like he's bringing it back, but I think even the writers aren't sure what her powers are at this point.

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Current Psylocke doesn't really employ any offensive telepathy mid-combat like she used to, and is now all about creating various medieval weaponry with TK, apparently.

For most characters, this probably wouldn't be too relevant as long as they've demonstrated powers or tactics in the past, even if they're penned as having somehow 'forgotten' those powers under their 2014 writer.

For Psylocke though, usually when she 'forgets' a power its because her whole powerset changed... shadow teleportation anyone?


Yes in the uncanny x-force sense Psylocke might actually be the weakest one here....

Though she's done some impressive things with her telepathy at least.


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