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Meetra wins, she knows how to defend her mind from a far more powerful telepath and has an exceptionally well trained mind in the first place.
Her precognition, skill and sheer speed would pressure Zannah considerably throughout the entire engagement and Zannah can only stall in return because Meetra's stamina is greater than her own.
Through the Force Meetra would sever Zannah's connection and that is the one thing Zannah is simply defenseless against.
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Sever Force requires you to be considerably more powerful than somebody else. I mean, actually cutting off somebody's connection to the Force is far worse, than, say, ragdolling.
Registered: Aug 2014
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How? no seriously I want to see your mind rape argument again.
Oh and Meetra's in-combat speed is half a second whilst on a DS nexus, against top Imperial Guards she cut down a group of them in seconds, better than your Hero's Imperial Guard feats tbh.
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Last edited by AncientPower on Apr 29th, 2015 at 10:37 AM
Logical deductions aren't fan-based assumptions - just because it isn't written in cold, stone-hard fact doesn't make it false, unless you're claiming that anybody could just ragdoll anyone, with no regard to power whatsoever.
And by this no-limits fallacy, Surik could also Sever Vitiate from the Force.
Cutting somebody off from the Force is basically the most powerful technique a Jedi has at their disposal - and actually cutting off their ability to draw upon the Force in any sort of capacity is only plausible if you're actually considerably more powerful. Otherwise, it makes no sense. Severing one's connection to the Force is hardly a joke - ragdolling them doesn't even lie in the same ballpark.
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Yet there is greater indication that skill and mastery of the technique is what defines your ability to use it against any given dark sider. Vitiate and the likes are not going to work by the same mechanics for obvious differences compared to general powerful Force Users.
I am not arguing a no-limits fallacy, only that said limits are based almost entirely on the person attacking in this instance.
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Last edited by AncientPower on Apr 29th, 2015 at 10:47 AM
I didn't suggest that, merely that it would be similar. Zannah has Bane-level TK, which is on a far higher level than anything Meetra has demonstrated. She's unable to properly defend herself from an attack like that.
1. Skill is a matter, yes, but I'm not overly concerned with it because sources have stated that Surik has an aptitude for Severing another's connection to the Force. It's not the skill to use that power which I'm contesting, but the raw power required to actually deny somebody the Force. And I don't recall anybody successfully Severing another except when they were drastically more powerful. For instance, Odan-Urr failed against Exar Kun because he was drastically weaker in the Force, despite his knowledge/skill/mastery of the Force and this technique. The Jedi Masters on Dantooine had to combine their strength to Sever a pre-prime Surik, which is likely because their power (on their own) didn't have that drastic edge over Surik's own raw power. And the Masters certainly weren't lacking in Force Mastery, given that sources claim they have masted techniques which are among "the greatest possible for a Jedi Master" and "the pinnacle of Force Mastery".
Traya did, too, but despite being on a "colossal geyser of dark side energy", she couldn't ragdoll Surik. Surik also grows more powerful after Traya's death, and both Traya and even Sion (who is hardly renowned for his foresight) see Surik as being more powerful than Traya in the Force (in the future).
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Traya > Bane > Zannah.
Traya as I have demonstrated to you once before is better at everything Zannah has done besides Tendrils, which is a Zannah nexus feat. Surik beat Traya through skill despite being less powerful, Zannah herself is not Traya's equal.
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