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Silver surfer/Star dust vs Superman/Thor

People say that superman and thor are considered high herald level beings. Lets see if they can live up to there reputation. Can they take on true high herald beings and get the majority.

CIS is gone in this battle to make it interesting.

This is classic thor.


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the Heralds win this pretty convincingly.
Thor's too slow to do anything.

Stardust is beyond harming, as far as Superman goes and Surfer is too powerful.

SS/SD 9/10.


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Originally posted by janus77
the Heralds win this pretty convincingly.
Thor's too slow to do anything.

Stardust is beyond harming, as far as Superman goes and Surfer is too powerful.

SS/SD 9/10.


Thor is to slow huh. Lets see how his equal does.

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What speed feats make Stardust >> Thor?

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Originally posted by Eel O'Brian
What speed feats make Stardust >> Thor?


There aren't any.

And Thor has more than held his own against Surfer a few times ... frankly he's better suited for this fight than Superman is by quite a decent margin.


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Originally posted by Eel O'Brian
What speed feats make Stardust >> Thor?


Thats why I posted the stardust vs brb fight because brb is thors equal.


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Superman and Thor take this.


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great match up...but i feel the surfer will be the deciding factor in this fight

7/10 SS/SD


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If Superman were to fight Stardust ... what exactly would he do?


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Surfer is hundereds of times faster than Thor, this is meant to be CIS free. no way is Thor even in the battle, if Surfer isn't jobbing.

Surfer can and does wipe the floor with Thor. he can and has trapped Mjolnir away from Thor, he can and has synthesised Odinforce (for BRB), thus he can manipulate Mjolnir to at the least rebound its energies (which will never hit him anyway).

SD cannot be hurt/killed by mjolnir/Stormbreaker. Superman's got nothing beyond thumping and heat vision, again of no use against SD.


Thor goes down first though, seeing as Surfer would most likely tackle him, leaving SD to keep Superman busy.
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what?
that was a CIS incarnate mele, which SD needn't have gotten into.


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Can superman mimic a punch like this to take silver surfer out of the fight.
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If Superman were to fight Stardust ... what exactly would he do?

exactly.
same goes for Thor seeing as Stormbreaker had no effect on SD. SD just reforms. he's a form of sentient energy, incapable of physical damage.


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Can superman mimic a punch like this to take silver surfer out of the fight.
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lol

1) hell no
2) it didn't take Surfer out
3) it came after a barrage of other assaults upon Surfer from Aegis' full-on energy blast to other attacks from Tenebreous
4) Surfer's too fast to be tagged /CIS


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Surfer is hundereds of times faster than Thor


In a straight line? sure, shame this isn't a race. In a fight he just doesn't have a speed advantage against anyone here.


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In a straight line? sure, shame this isn't a race. In a fight he just doesn't have a speed advantage against anyone here.


?? yes he does


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Surfer is hundereds of times faster than Thor, this is meant to be CIS free. no way is Thor even in the battle, if Surfer isn't jobbing.


Are you referring to flight speed because again brb=thor and brb flies across the cosmos easily so thor should be able to keep up with surfer if youre basing this off of flight speed.

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Surfer can and does wipe the floor with Thor. he can and has trapped Mjolnir away from Thor, he can and has synthesised Odinforce (for BRB), thus he can manipulate Mjolnir to at the least rebound its energies (which will never hit him anyway).


Surfer his entire career has ever wiped the floor against thor, someone who is basically his equal.

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SD cannot be hurt/killed by mjolnir/Stormbreaker. Superman's got nothing beyond thumping and heat vision, again of no use against SD.


Stardust has the ability to defeat superman, superman did almost get killed holding a black hole in his hand and stardust creates black hole like candy. If thor is able to defeat surfer then this fight come down to thor vs stardust.


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In a straight line? sure, shame this isn't a race. In a fight he just doesn't have a speed advantage against anyone here.

again, Surfer has on-panel demonstrated that he can (if he so chooses) use speed in a battle.

he mocked Deathurge by speedblasting, he destroyed an armada with a speedblitz and he has played dodgeball with Mjolnir with ease.

it's ony CIS which makes Surfer present himself as a target for anyone below High Herald.


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lol

1) hell no
2) it didn't take Surfer out
3) it came after a barrage of other assaults upon Surfer from Aegis' full-on energy blast to other attacks from Tenebreous
4) Surfer's too fast to be tagged /CIS


I know superman can mimic that punch, I was trying to understand why someone said thor/superman win because I cant think of a way yet besides thor versatility for the herald team to lose. I dont know why I made this fight.


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Stardust doesn't have any speedfeats that put him on par with Superman, so Superman speedblitz him for a while. Doesn't matter that he can reform, he clearly feels pain and is stunned whenever punched.

Thor shields the two of them, and/or absorbs any attack into his hammer. After Stardust is stunned, Superman will work on Surfer and Thor will absorb Stardust's life force. Surfer can't turn Superman into kryptonite while trying to dodge Superman's attacks, and any attack will either be absorbed by Thor or dodged.


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Are you referring to flight speed because again brb=thor and brb flies across the cosmos easily so thor should be able to keep up with surfer if youre basing this off of flight speed.



Surfer his entire career has ever wiped the floor against thor, someone who is basically his equal.



Stardust has the ability to defeat superman, superman did almost get killed holding a black hole in his hand and stardust creates black hole like candy. If thor is able to defeat surfer then this fight come down to thor vs stardust.

Surfer vs Thor without CIS.

it's the CIS part which makes all the difference, imo.

Surfer has dodged Mjolnir plenty of times, but then reverted to monologue/preaching... which is where his downfall usually comes.

Surfer's now sufficiently durable to hang with Teneberous/Aegis, taking mutltiple direct and murderous attacks without falling. his "energy signature" is now equal to Thanos (as of Annihilation), which probably has a bearing on this too, but even so... basically Surfer's not the weak earthbound rogue herald he was when he first tussled with Thor.


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