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Caine Wise (Jupiter Ascending) vs. Darth Vader (ROTJ)
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Caine Wise (Jupiter Ascending) vs. Darth Vader (ROTJ)

Gravity boots and an armed Caine has to take down Darth Vader. Who prevails ?


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Vader force crushes him.

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Originally posted by playa1258
Vader force crushes him.
Based on ?


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force crush ftw


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Crushing a AT AT

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Crushing a AT AT
Hiw does that relate to Caine Wise ?


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He wouls crush the meatbag

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He wouls crush the meatbag
What person has he instantly crushed that he faced in combat ?


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He did that force crush in combat. Han Solo tried to kill him by stepping on him with the AT AT

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He did that force crush in combat. Han Solo tried to kill him by stepping on him with the AT AT
So he didn't kill anyone but destroyed some machine. That isn't different than Vader freaking out when hearing Padmes death.


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Im pretty sure he could crush a spliced human

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Im pretty sure he could crush a spliced human
But he hasn't crushed a human let alone someone as skilled and quick as Caine. Quit making feats up.


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It is true that moving fast can dodge TK, as shown in the first CW series. Force crushing is quite unlikely against someone as fast and incredibly maneuverable as Caine.

On the flip side, Vader can block Caine's gun, and is the more dangerous in melee. So he likely wins in the end, but if Caine sees how things are going and wants to just get away, he can easily.


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It is true that moving fast can dodge TK, as shown in the first CW series. Force crushing is quite unlikely against someone as fast and incredibly maneuverable as Caine.

On the flip side, Vader can block Caine's gun, and is the more dangerous in melee. So he likely wins in the end, but if Caine sees how things are going and wants to just get away, he can easily.
How can Vader continually block his fire considering how fast and skilled he is ? Plus if he starts zipping all over the place with his gravity boots Vader will be screwed.


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If he can destroy an AT-AT with a force crush he can destroy a human, doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out, unless Caine has some cool durability feat up his sleeves (like say, being directly hit by a MOAB)


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If he can destroy an AT-AT with a force crush he can destroy a human, doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out, unless Caine has some cool durability feat up his sleeves (like say, being directly hit by a MOAB)
We never see him instantly do so you are lying. Wrecking inanimate objects isn't the same as a person. I've timed out force chimes and Vader doesn't instantly do them in the films. They also happen to be against untrained scum.


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No you're right, crushing a heavily armored vehicle is a far better feat that crushing some human schmuck, it's not like we're claiming Vader can manipulate dust particles or some shite

Also, "timing out", if you were to do that that pretty much all of fiction would only be low superhuman, but hey, you know, "I want my side to win, even if that means nitpicking low end showings for the opponent and taking the best feats for my side!"


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No you're right, crushing a heavily armored vehicle is a far better feat that crushing some human schmuck, it's not like we're claiming Vader can manipulate dust particles or some shite

Also, "timing out", if you were to do that that pretty much all of fiction would only be low superhuman, but hey, you know, "I want my side to win, even if that means nitpicking low end showings for the opponent and taking the best feats for my side!"
No showings of his instantly doing so to a person so your expect him to do that instantly here. GTFO fanboy.

Anyone who makes shit up never seen is a fanboy.

I argue based on facts not what ifs.


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[B]No showings of his instantly doing so to a person so your expect him to do that instantly here. GTFO fanboy.


Speed feats in Star Wars put him at the point where he could do it at way above human speeds, and DC feats in Star Wars put him at the point where he could force crush this fleshling handily (unless there's a feat elsewhere that puts Caine on the level where he could resist or tank Vader's telekinesis, if so, please share)

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Because someone who pedantically nitpicks percieved low ends and takes the best feats for his own side is totally objective by comparison

But no seriously, he can crush materials that can tank heavy blaster cannons that can vaporise durasteel, are you seriously doubting he could force crush a god damn human?


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Anyways, anyone wanna share Caine's "speed feats" that as per spergchi suggests can insta-zip around Vader ala Bleach/Claymore style? No seriously I am curious


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