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Lizard vs Ronan

TAS Lizard

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GOTG Ronan the destroyer

No Gem

H2H


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Ronan's a more skilled fighter, but the Lizard would eventually wear him down, his healing factor is better than Logan's.


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You think Ronan could rip his head off? He was strong enough to casually embed Drax in an industrial grade container with a slight push.

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Possible I guess. But then he'd be grappling with the Lizard, who has massive claws, teeth and is extremely strong as well.


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Ronan durability is above Lizard's regen imo, he does not seem to get hurt.


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Only time he was tagged was while he had the Gem, iirc.

Stands to reason if Draxx's daggers would have broken against him, he wouldn't have cared about blocking/dodging them.


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I haven't seen ASM in a while, but did Lizard have any decent strength feats? The Spidey he fought seemed much weaker than the Spidey that fought Electro.

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I haven't seen ASM in a while, but did Lizard have any decent strength feats? The Spidey he fought seemed much weaker than the Spidey that fought Electro.


IIRC, he tunneled through concrete, tore through metal as if were paper and threw a car like a baseball.


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Only time he was tagged was while he had the Gem, iirc.

Stands to reason if Draxx's daggers would have broken against him, he wouldn't have cared about blocking/dodging them.


Most fights that are choreographed show dodging for the purposes of entertainment. and the sport of the fight. Not everyone pulls the Superman bullet eye catch.


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Most fights that are choreographed show dodging for the purposes of entertainment. and the sport of the fight. Not everyone pulls the Superman bullet eye catch.


That's fine and acceptable. Still, we have no real reference in how durable Ronan is without the Gem.


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IIRC, he tunneled through concrete, tore through metal as if were paper and threw a car like a baseball.


It has been a while. I need to watch that movie again.

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It's not very good, so just take my words for it:

-Throws a car at Spider-man during the bridge scene
-Rips through a limo's roof to kill the Oscrop Exec
-Tunnels through concrete and burst through the toilet/floor at SM's college campus

Lizard has greater strength feats than Ronan


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Cool. Poor Ronan then. Lol.

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Ronan was able to take hits from Drax who in turn was strong enough to tear those robots apart. Ronan didn't even seem to feel them.


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Actually a very good point. But on top of the Lizard's extreme strength, he has sharp claws and teeth; not just blunt force punches. Add his crazy-high HF, it's his fight to lose.

edit: Should also add he was agile and fast enough to compete with Spider-man. So the only advantage Ronan has here is his superior H2H skills, but that's probably not enough in the long run considering the HF. Lizard regrew bone, muscle and sinew in seconds, can't imagine very strong punches would tax his HF much.


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Actually a very good point. But on top of the Lizard's extreme strength, he has sharp claws and teeth; not just blunt force punches. Add his crazy-high HF, it's his fight to lose.

edit: Should also add he was agile and fast enough to compete with Spider-man. So the only advantage Ronan has here is his superior H2H skills, but that's probably not enough in the long run considering the HF.
Drax was also shown to be able to seemingly overpower Groot in their bar brawl as well.

But yes the Lizard definitely has a lot going for him. It's hard to tell though how much those claws will help against Ronan's armor though. Of course it is also hard to tell how tough Ronan's armor is. Most of his fighting was done under the influence of the stone so it's hard to say how much was him/his gear or the stone boosting them.


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Lizard was strong enough to toss various cars off a bridge like he was tossing away garbage. Just look how he was flinging them, and the string of vehicles hanging from the side of the bridge.



Impressive strength and reaction feats for Spidey too really, considering he was catching the cars with the aid of his webbing and hooking them to the bridge, one by one.


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Also, as Rob said, he can keep up with Spiderman, who even in the first film was fast enough to do the following:

Around 2 minutes and 6 seconds:


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Ronan wins. Robbie is wrong yet again.


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I don't see Ronan losing this. The dude was boss.


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