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Ultimate Galactus vs Apokolips...
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Ultimate Galactus vs Apokolips...

The planet Apokolips and all its major denizens (Darkseid, Desaad, ect) learn that Gah Lak Tus has targeted them and is on its way to destroy their world...

Apokolips combined has one week to prepare for Gah Lak Tus...

As with Earth, Gah Lak Tus's Silver Surfers have been secretly converting significant portions of the population to accept death (so that they wont resist when Gah Lak Tus arrives to destroy them) for several years...

Who wins?


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Ahahaha, accept death....

Apokolips (well, pre-DCnU) was ALL about death.

The Silver Surfers would have been converted themselves. To die for Darkseid.


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Ahahaha, accept death....

Apokolips (well, pre-DCnU) was ALL about death.

The Silver Surfers would have been converted themselves. To die for Darkseid.


In this case though, parademons and everyone else that was successfully converted would not fight back or offer any resistance to Gah Lak Tus...and that would be very bad for any world.


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For the purpose of this thread, 20% of Apokolips population has been successfully converted...

None of the planets major denizens has been converted however...


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The low-level parademons might have significant converts amongst them, IF successful.

But ultimately, Darkseid wins. You're talking about a highly militarised planet that's constantly at war, unifed under one banner, and willing to do whatever it takes.

Who also have God tech.


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The low-level parademons might have significant converts amongst them, IF successful.

But ultimately, Darkseid wins.


A Big Bang was needed to repell Gah Lak Tus...

How does Darkseid solo?


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Gah Lak Tus was distracted by Jean and Charles. Who aren't on Darkseid's TP level.

The Big Bang Gun, whilst impressive, showed that destroying about 20% of the Gah Lak Tus entity is enough to drive him off.

Which Apokolips are you using? Am assuming pre-DCnU mainly because Apokolips doesn't have that many feats in the DCnU so far, but either would win and I can make arguments for both.


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Gah Lak Tus was distracted by Jean and Charles. Who aren't on Darkseid's TP level.

The Big Bang Gun, whilst impressive, showed that destroying about 20% of the Gah Lak Tus entity is enough to drive him off.

Which Apokolips are you using? Am assuming pre-DCnU mainly because Apokolips doesn't have that many feats in the DCnU so far, but either would win and I can make arguments for both.


It wasnt just Jean and Charles...

It was Earth combined amped by Shield technology...


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...And?

But yeah, before I go further, pre or post DCnU?


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And yes, this is pre DCuN Apokolips...


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It wasnt just Jean and Charles...

It was Earth combined amped by Shield technology...


Ok.

Darkseid, using TP, mind-controlled 3 billion Daxamites. AND it's canon, even post-Crisis.

That's...above what I've seen Ultimate Xavier/Jean do, even when amped.

He can resurrect any of the 80% of parademons who die (which, considering it is a military planet, is a LOT):
http://i.imgur.com/GUQJ64a.jpg

He could BFR large swathes of the swarm using Boom Tubes, or just casually waving his hands.

The Omega Sanction

Broadcasting of mind-eating computer codes which have destroyed an alternate future Amazo.

And of course, the Promethean Giants. The Gah Lak Tus swarm was what, 160,000 km long? That giant is about to hold the EARTH in his hand. And he belongs to Darkseid:
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All of that pales compared to the Big Bang that was needed to repel Gah Lak Tus; we are talking about a universal creating/destroying attack...

Inaddition Gah Lak Tus defeated what was arguably 1 billion Low Heralds in just a few minutes; Darkseid has been defeated by far, far, far less...


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Apokolips wins


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All of that pales compared to the Big Bang that was needed to repel Gah Lak Tus; we are talking about a universal creating/destroying attack...

Inaddition Gah Lak Tus defeated what was arguably 1 billion Low Heralds in just a few minutes; Darkseid has been defeated by far, far, far less...


So Apokolips is not, as per forum rules, fighting to the best of its abilities?

It was the Big Bang of an infant universe, but OK.

Lol. Gah Lak Tus was a machine swarm that did nothing else but move and feed. The Promethean Giant alone would crush it in its hands. Gah Lak Tus hated expending energy - it was incredibly lazy (hence the Surfers). When large sections of it are being Boom-Tubed away (and considering Darkseid casually boomtubes entire planets....) Gah Lak Tus would die.

Those billion no-name heralds are not THREE billion Daxamites at pre-Crisis levels, btw.


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Apokolips wins


Based on what?

Does Apokolips (or rather its Denizens) have any feats comparable in power to the Ultimate version of the Ultimate Nullifier?


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Lol. You are thinking too one-dimensionally.

What's stopping Darkseid from using his full size? S'ivaa was destroying planets with his fingers at full size, and all New Gods are at that level.

The Ultimate Nullifier is great. Does it have the feats of the Omega Anction?

Can the Ultimate Nullifier BFR large sections of the Gah LakTus entiity (effectively punching holes in the swarm)?

Could Ultimate Earth move around like Apokolips? The swarm moves at speeds less than the speed of light, because it was conserving energy. What if it has to chase its prey? Apokolips could bounce around the galaxy, until it runs out of energy.

All these are valid tactics that Ultimate Marvel Earth couldn't do. Hence, big gun that goes boom. Impressive, sure. But
don't be suckered into thinking it's the only way.


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Galactus wins. Darkseid and his planet couldn't even stop Doomsday.


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Galactus wins. Darkseid and his planet couldn't even stop Doomsday.

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This is exactly what I was thinking; thats why I gave Apokolips a week prep to help out a bit...


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what defense do they have against BFR?


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This is what a world looks like to a New God. Note the little fireballs.

Darkseid on his own would chew the Gah Lak Tus swarm up and spit it out...accidentally.

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