Didn't Connor use a katana instead of a claymore? Anyway, haven't watched Highlander for some time but if I recall, Macleod was born in the 1500's which would make him around 500 yrs old plus whenever they kill another immortal they absorb all the skill, experience and power of that immortal.
That means Connor has a huge huge experience advantage over Aragorn. And the only thing stopping me from saying this is a complete stomp in favor of Connor is due to crappy choreographed sword fights of that era.
In the end though, Connor doesn't need to be as strong as Urukhai. Strength probably won't be as big a factor in this fight as will be skill. He's also way more durable than either Aragorn or an Urukhai.
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Aragorn is hundreds of years old as well. Either way, A Broad Sword and a Katana blade are two different blades. Katana blades are made for slicing and not piecing or stabbing. A Katana blade is obviously going to have more efficiency in slashing than it would stabbing or piercing. These are what the swords are designed to do. In samurai, times, armor was designed EXTREMELY different than it was in medieval times. Katana baldes are folded at least a thousand times in their creation. /Most braod swords are folded 5-600 times. This doesn't mean they can't defend against a samurai blade or pierce a samurai's armor.
In short, Katana blades are no more deadly than a properly made broad sword. Yes, Katana /blades can cut through layers of steel but not through layers of reinforced steel of a broad sword. There is no way, McCloud defeats aragorn here. Aragorn, Is battle hardened.
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1. Aragorn is around 90 yrs old if I'm not mistaken.
2. Katanas are not folded a thousand times, they just have a thousand folds. Most katanas are folded somewhere between 10-13 times. Folded 10 times, a katana blade would have 1024 folds. Folded 11 times it would have 2048. Etc.
3. Aragorn uses a longsword, not a broadsword.
4. Longsword blades are not folded. The reason a katana blade is folded is because Japan had crappy iron. They had to fold the blade in order to even out the carbon distribution in the steel. Europe (being a larger place with more trade coming in) had access to higher quality steel and they had no need to fold the blades because they were strong enough as is.
5. If we're going to use accurate representations of the swords, then the katana will most likely bend out of shape from just a few full contact whacks with the longsword. But since this is the realm of movies I'm willing to suspend my disbelief and assume both swords would last longer than the combatants themselves.
6. Don't see how Aragorn is more battle hardened than Macleod when Macleod is a couple centuries older plus has all the experience gained from his killed opponents.
7. Macleod is unkillable unless his head is decapitated. Aragorn can be killed with a decapitation, a stab to the heart, exsanguination, etc.
Can't look at the video. Lionsgate blocked it apparently.
And Aragorn tossed a probably 230+lb dwarf made even heavier by heavy armor and weapons like a rag doll when he threw Gimli onto the bridge. Remember Aragorn while not truly immortal, is descended from the First Men(basically 40k Space Marines but in the past), making him far more powerful than most people alive in Middle Earth by the time of the trilogy.
How many people did Conner actually beat?
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I'm going to try and go through a few Highlander videos when I get the chance. But just pulling from memory, I know the immortals were easily breaking off steel and iron pipes or grills here and there. Either to use as weapons or to just get out of their way. Their swords swings were usually enough to cut through chain and slim steel poles.
In the end though when fighting with swords, it's more skill and speed that will count and not so much strength, unless there is a huge difference in strength.
Aragorn has plenty of skill and speed as well. His kill count should be massively higher than Conner's considering all he does is fight and kill shit his entire life of 90+ years by the time the trilogy starts. Hell his kill count int he 3 movies alone probably overshadows Connor's.
Katana blades are only folded 100-200 times. Master blades are folded a 1000 times but it's extremely rare to find that Don't challenge me on this. I grew up next to a blacksmith. We had many debates on this issue. I would always argue that a, Katana blade was sharper. He would always respond, that "yes, Katana blades are sharper but only in a slashing manner. He would always argue that a, Katana blade could never pierce a medieval suit of armor if it was used to stab/pierce the armor. He would also go into detail to explain how samurai, didn't utilize much armor and the armor, that they did use could all be easily pierced and ruined by a, Katana blade or a poorly crafted, European blade. The mythical, blades we always here about regarding, Katana blades were ones that were rarely produced and ones that were made for very specific individuals.
A highly crafted medieval, broad sword was designed to pierce just as many layers of steel than a finely crafted Katana blade was.
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!V! duels are dwarfed when compared to multi-duels that he completely owns. At least i would think. Anytime you see aragron fighting more than one enemy, he is destroying the competition. Atleast when we compare McCloud. McCloud never fights more than one opponent. Or, atleast when he does, he is getting his ass beat. Argorn, has showcased, MULTIPLE times where he takes one numerous enemies on his own and rocks them. If you, REALLY want proof, i will provide. McCloud NEVER takes on more than ONE enemay alone. ;-)
So let me know because i know Aragorn aways beats McCloud.
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Do you even know what it entails to "fold" a blade? You get a rectangular chunk of steel, heat that up and then hammer it continuously to an elongated flat piece of steel. That will take hours and hours. Then you fold it, and then hammer it again flat. That will take hours again. A katana blade folded 10-13 times takes a master smith months to make. It's ridiculous to try and fold it a hundred times, let alone a thousand. Like I said, a blade folded 10 times already has 1024 folds (2 raised to the power of 10) and that's where the confusion comes in. People think it's folded a thousand times. It is not, it simply has a thousand or so folds.
Besides, do you know what the purpose of folding the blade is? It's to leech off excess carbon. Too much carbon makes the steel brittle. But fold it too many times and you leech the carbon out too much. Too little carbon and the steel is too soft.
Neither longsword nor katana can cut through high-end Samurai armor. Latter design longswords however could probably stab through it. To be fair though, neither katana or longsword could stab or cut through plate armor. You'd have to go through gap points and samurai armor have way more gaps than full plate armor.
Katanas are usually sharper than longswords because katanas have a harder steel edge and thus can retain sharpness better. Longswords however were made of a springier steel and was a lot more durable. Whereas katanas would bend if placed under enough stress, longswords normally just spring back into shape.
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