Anakin, Kylo is good with the Force, I don't know how that'd play out between them but Anakin is a much better swordsman, Kylo is a sloppy fighter in that regard and thats where Anakin would take him down.
yeah Kylos showing some new Force abilities thats for sure, I don't think they could affect Vader but its an interesting thought for sure...As I said, no way he beats Anakin in a sword fight though, Kylo got owned by a girl who had just picked one up for the first time.
Guys, I know Kylo's performance was shit and I said this in the other thread, but it's important to point out that it was because of the massive PIS and jobfest to make Rey look unreasonably good. Just shit writing and shows a lack of understanding of the Force.
I liked the way Kylo was introduced and showed how badass he was with stopping a blaster bolt and *completely* immobilizing Rey. That all went down the drain later though.
Having said all that, still need to go with what happened. That is, Kylo lost to a noob and its such a fcking shame. Coming from the Skywalker bloodline, having been trained by Luke and a Sith Lord, he should have been formidable. Just imagine Vader losing like a ***** to Luke the first time.
yeah the pis was kinda crazy lol. Rey whooping an experience forced user? like wtf lol. also agree with kylo entrance being BADASS! Costume looks awesome too but based on showing, definitely Anakin.
Kylo Ren has incomplete training *and* was wounded, and both his foes had melee combat training/experience.
So yea, someone literally shot in the side (affecting muscles that do matter to sword swings) is going to perform worse enough in extended combat (two foes in a row!) that a force amateur with combat skill can hold their own.
So a movie shot thirty some years later has something to do with ESB.
No, this was entirely new. The blast was frozen mid air unlike Han's shots that were deflected. Kylo has superior reaction time than Vader shoe as lying in wait unlike Kylo.
Kylo has already superior reaction feats and he was untrained. I told you all Kylo would surpass Vader. Wait until episode 8, Vader boy.