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Idk if he can damage someone as durable as Spidey with a phase, remember the difference the Goblin bomb did between Harry and Peter. There is a solid chance Thawne's hand is the thing damaged.
Reverse Flash has phased through tougher things than regular human flesh without any harm. Burden of proof is on you to show that Spiderman's durability will protect him from a hand through the brain or heart, and then to further prove that it would actually hurt Thawne.
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what has he damaged with phasing that is above Spiderman? Spidey took a Goblin Bomb to the face, in the same movie it vaporized normal people and even the Harry Goblin took severe damage from one.
Nope, doesn't work like that. We know RF can phase attack. We know he can phase through various things. We know that the whole point of a phase attack is to bypass stronger areas to reach more vulnerable spots. We've also seen that phasing has more to do with hitting the right speed and frequency than the toughness of the object. First time Thawne teaches Barry to go intangible, he still runs through a gas truck without issues.
So again, you made the claim Spiderman's durability can somehow counter phasing attacks (even though phasing has only been countered by unique circumstances, like the special cuff Thawne had, or the varying frequencies of the two Earths), and to such a degree that it would actually hurt Thawne, so you have to back it up. The bomb proves nothing, as RF's hand will just pass through Spidey's tougher layers, being intangible and all (you understand what intangibility means right?).
And as Darth Thor pointed out, RF took hits from Firestorm, and a massive drop off the roof of Star Labs IIRC, plus he is still a lot faster than Spiderman. And, unlike the season 1 Barry, RF doesn't job in fights.
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So you agree he has never used it on anyone with any level of super durability? Lol at trying to make Spidey out as some egg man, he got smashed around by all manner of things and never suffered only internal damage and concussions.
Ok, at what level was Firestorms attack? Certainly wasn't nuclear bomb level as it didn't level anything when it missed. Do you think RF could tank the Goblin bomb? Not dodge it, not phase past it... Just tank it?
So you admit that you have zero evidence to prove your speculation? Fact is there is absolutely nothing shown in The Flash to suggest Spiderman's durability would hamper phasing whatsoever. No one is making Spiderman out to be some egg man either. You just seem to fail to grasp that a phasing attack will allow Thawne to directly strike at vital organs, nerves etc. without needing to deal with Spiderman's overall toughness. By all means, prove not only that Spiderman can tank getting a finger jabbed into his brain at super speed (we know from Thawne crushing Cisco's heart inside his chest, and Jay phasing a bullet out of Wells, that speedsters can selectively make certain bits intangible while leaving other bits solid), but that it would actually hurt Reverse Flash instead. Oh wait, you can't.
Basically, you have nothing to support your claim, as it is never shown or stated in the show that something like that would affect a phasing attack. Because using your logic, Vison can't damage Spiderman via phasing either, because he only caused physical damage to Ultron bots, who don't have Spiderman's overall durability showings either. But I highly doubt you would ever try to make that argument.
Who said Thawne is as durable as Spiderman? No one. Nice job trying to deflect though. And exactly why would he choose to tank it in anyways, when he is more than fast enough to avoid it? And we saw that Firestorm has enough power to easily blast through the thick doors on Rip's ship. We've also seen his attacks cause explosions on impact before. RF actually took the one blast full on during the final battle against Flash, Firestorm and Arrow, and then dropped several stories onto a car, crushing it, only to be back on his feet moments later. So he is certainly durable enough to take a few hits, if Spidey can even manage to land any.
Anyway, I don't expect you to actually provide any genuine substantial evidence to back your claim (seeing as it has been multiple posts without any), and the mass consensus is that Reverse Flash wins. So I am done here.
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So in your oppinion Thawne could kill Christopher Reeve's Superman? He has no feats of surviving a phased poke to the brain? Nice hissy fit though at the end, I know I brought up a point impossible to rebuke, it may happen in the future with Zoom or even Barry. At which point we can look to see if RF could replicate it.
On to your points, Vision never hurt a human with his phasing at all, but he is made out of vibranium which has far better durability feats than Spidey. Spidey stopped a runaway subway, his strength feats are so much higher than anyone in Arrow/Flashverse.
Nice strawman. Reeves Superman has durability well beyond Spiderman, as well as a ton of plot-induced powers that Spiderman never displays. No hissy fit either. Fact is the evidence is on my side. You have nothing but hot air.
And RF was going to kill Flash with phasing in the end of season 1. Flash who is also a speedster with similar powers, and has shown enhanced durability/healing on several occasions (like taking hits from Atom Smasher, Grodd, being struck by various blasts, lightning bolts etc.). And even ignoring phasing, Spidey doesn't even have an answer to RF doing something more mundane, like just stabbing him in the eyes with his fingers at superspeed.
Reverse Flash wins, no matter how you keep crying.
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Tobey had a handful of cuts from a blast that vaporized humans. I think you are really undercutting the durability. No to mention tanking all of Sandman's hits who was the size of an apartment complex.
He was durable, yes. As is Reverse Flash (not to the same extent but he is also very durable).
But Spidey was not even close to being indestructible. He was cut pretty easily by those Goblin flying cutting objects. So I see no reason why he'd suddenly be indestructible against Phasing power from a villain whose also got great durability but is also much faster than Spidey. No reason at all.
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