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Defeat this Marvel team with the JLA

So pick out any JLA members HH or lower to defeat this Marvel line up.

Marvel team: Let's call them " The New Defenders".

Thor
Surfer
Hyperion
Hulk
Sentry no void
Strange

Vs. The JLA roster of your choice, HH or lower...


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Hal
Wally West
Superman
Wonder Woman
Martian Manhunter
Captain Marvel

Easy


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They can't.

Sentry solos them all.


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Superman
Flash
Orion
Atom
Firestorm
WW
Zatanna
Captain Marvel
Captain Atom
Dead man.

Easy peasy, lemon squeezy. Even Sentry, without the Void, would be taken down. Deadman could possess all of them at once.


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Its a 6 vs 6 ....


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Thor vs Superman (Superman blitzes)
Hyperion vs Flash (Flash blitzes)

With these two down
The six Jla members wear down the marvel team, surfer and sentry will be last to fall and I predict a couple of JLA casualties most likely namely Captain Marvel, Wonder Woman or Hal
But eventually my Jla team pulls through


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Its a 6 vs 6 ....


Never specified, heh.

Superman
Flash
MM
Deadman
Captain Atom
Zatanna.

Atom takes Strange out (magic does not affect him, whereas blasts and punches work on Strange)

Without any magic, Z and Deadman get to work. Deadman possesses Sentry, Hyperion, Thor simultaneously.

Superman and Hulk fight as always. It will take a while. Everyone else dogpiles him if needed (not that its needed).

The others fight Surfer.

JLA win.


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Never specified, heh.

Superman
Flash
MM
Deadman
Captain Atom
Zatanna.

Atom takes Strange out (magic does not affect him, whereas blasts and punches work on Strange)

Without any magic, Z and Deadman get to work. Deadman possesses Sentry, Hyperion, Thor simultaneously.

Superman and Hulk fight as always. It will take a while. Everyone else dogpiles him if needed (not that its needed).

The others fight Surfer.

JLA win.


Zatanna and Deadman will succeed where Molecule Man failed to ?


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Dead man has possessed multiversal entities. On his own. Now he has Z backing him up.

Did MM try to possess him?

Moreover, this is now magic we're talking about, which by definition follows its own rules


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Dead man has possessed multiversal entities.


Which are ?

Scans ?


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On his own. Now he has Z backing him up.


And ? What will do Zatanna when Strange himself recognized to be unable to handle Sentry?

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Did MM try to possess him?


MM power is far beyond a simple possession by a ghost.

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Moreover, this is now magic we're talking about, which by definition follows its own rules


So is the ability to manipulate the reality to a greater extend.

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Obsidian
Dr Fate
Flash
Amazingman
Captain Atom


Obsidian possesses the Marvel team and makes them fight each other (like he did to JSA when he turned dark)

Fate teleports Amazingman near Sentry who touches him and absorbs his power (like he did to defeat the galactus knock off)

Flash IMP and dumps intonthe speed force whoever he can get to while Fate BFRs to other dimensions and atom dumps whoever into quantum field (this one is for strange as immune to magic )obsidian BFRs to shadowlands.

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Which are ?

Scans ?




And ? What will do Zatanna when Strange himself recognized to be unable to handle Sentry?



MM power is far beyond a simple possession by a ghost.



So is the ability to manipulate the reality to a greater extend.


The Green. He was across all space and time, everywhere at once. In every piece of wood ever.

Strange was on his own. Now, its Z AND Deadman, whilst Deadman has also split and possessed other members to occupy Sentry at the same time (which he has done). I kinda recall the Void was what dealt with MM too? I only recall some black eyes and text, lol.

MM is still based in science, however. And I've seen no evidence that Sentry has ever resisted possession by someone like Deadman. Much less whilst being attacked physically and magically at the same time.

Edit: I also like beatboks.


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I dont really consider Deadman (or Constantine, Frankenstein etc) a JLAer, but interesting reading for sure.


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I dont really consider Deadman (or Constantine, Frankenstein etc) a JLAer, but interesting reading for sure.


A bit of a sneak on my part.

Dead man was made an honourary member of the JLA, pre Flashpoint.

We can always swap out with Obsidian, as per beatboks. Strange is really the best defence against the possessors, but without any telepathic fighters on par with MM, and with Atom there to counter him, team Marvel are a bit limited without magic and TP.


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Strange was recently manipulated by Ebony Maw, who like the other members of the Black Order is probably second rate at best.


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Thor was manipulated by Honest John, Hyperion was infected by a mind control virus, Hulk was also manipulated by....Ex Nihilo? Or was it the other one?

All very recent occurrences.

Obsidian/Boston could well sit back and have this...


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The Green. He was across all space and time, everywhere at once. In every piece of wood ever.


Scans.

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The wood isn't present everywhere at once in the Universe.

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Strange was on his own.


Strange alone is more powerful than Zatanna and Deadman and couldn't do anything to Sentry even he had prep.

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Now, its Z AND Deadman, whilst Deadman has also split and possessed other members to occupy Sentry at the same time (which he has done).


Or Sentry can erase the team he is facing immediately.


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I kinda recall the Void was what dealt with MM too?


No. The speech bubbles were white. The Void wouldn't have asked MM to help people as he is pure evil.

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I only recall some black eyes and text, lol.


Black Eyes aren't significant of the presence of the Void

Void had golden eyes from time to time and Sentry black eyes.

This debate has no place as Robert Reynolds power-set remains the same whatever the shape he takes.

He created a mini-werewolf just after he destroyed Owen without having black eyes which is a feat that even Maestro with the full Iso-Sphere can realize.

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MM is still based in science, however.


MM / RW powers are psionic in nature.
They allow Sentry to achieve whatever he wants to.

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And I've seen no evidence that Sentry has ever resisted possession by someone like Deadman.


Possessing Swamp Thing whom is an avatar of the Green, doesn't make him able to possess Sentry at all.

Deadman couldn't even possess Constantine because his mind is too filthy and you believe that he could possess Sentry even very powerful telepath trying to enter in his mind are possessed by negative energy... And Sentry got a psionic armour in bonus of becoming a Horseman of Death.

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That's a common stuff he faced in the past.

The only thing that could stop Sentry is himself.

Molecule Man power is far beyond the one of Lifegiver Galactus and despite that he was swatted like a fly.


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Which will come with the same result as Sentry one-shotting everyone or disintegrating the whole team effortlessly.

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A bit of a sneak on my part.

Dead man was made an honourary member of the JLA, pre Flashpoint.

We can always swap out with Obsidian, as per beatboks. Strange is really the best defence against the possessors, but without any telepathic fighters on par with MM, and with Atom there to counter him, team Marvel are a bit limited without magic and TP.

I love your evil mind. You always think outside the box. thumb up


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Scans.

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The wood isn't present everywhere at once in the Universe.


Don't have scans handy, but if you google his respect thread am sure they will pop up.

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Strange alone is more powerful than Zatanna and Deadman and couldn't do anything to Sentry even he had prep.

Scans of Strange attempting possession?

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Deadman couldn't even possess Constantine because his mind is too filthy and you believe that he could possess Sentry even very powerful telepath trying to enter in his mind are possessed by negative energy... And Sentry got a psionic armour in bonus of becoming a Horseman of Death.


Scans of Sentry's filthy mind, please. You're trying to compare apples and oranges.
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That's a common stuff he faced in the past.

Then post scans. Of him fighting off possession whilst being physicall and magically wailed on. This, really, is the only argument we need to debate on - the rest are red herrings. I've shown that Deadman can possess people (or at least, we all know he can). You need to show Sentry fighting OFF possession.

That's the only thing. Creating werewolves etc are all fine and dandy, but show me him fighting off mystical possession. Easy, right, as its common stuff he's faced in the past?


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I love your evil mind. You always think outside the box. thumb up


Otherwise, I'd be a Hulk or Superman fan.


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