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Well fighting Cap evenly shows he is on Caps level or at least close to it. And Cap >>>> Ozy.
And true that we dont know the context of the Ironman fight but we do see Buckys punches are strong enough to send Ironman flying back a bit. Plus punch holes in streets .
Ozy has no durability feats. One punch from bucky and he would be done for.
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It's a tough match that's for sure. Leaning towards WS simply because Ozy has never fought a superhuman opponent before, therefore it was easy for him to look good as he only fought opponents below him.
Edit: Just rewatched Ozy's fights against Comedian and Nightowl and I'm definitely taking WS's corner in this. Though the skill difference was quite huge between Ozy vs. Comedian/Nightowl/Roscharch, his opponents were able to take multiple hits before finally going down. I don't see any high end human fighter taking that many hits from WS before going down. I'm pretty sure WS would have put Comedian out with fewer hits than Ozy did.
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Ozy (the movie version) described on the Watchmen Wiki. Haven't seen the movie in a while so I had to look him up to try and remember his feats. Based on this, he can take WS.
"With most superheroes being depicted to having superhuman strength and fighting abilities, he is portrayed as the most physically powerful. He is able to lift men as large as the Comedian above his head with both hands and send people flying through the air several feet with his attacks, usually with enough force to crack stone and dent metal. An attack from him could greatly injury a person, almost like being struck by a vehicle, to the point where it may be fatal. Someone sent flying into a structure by him would impact it with enough force to damage it, even if it where dense stone. He is able to smash through stone and solid wooden tables with one punch. This causes his attacks to be heavily weakening and debilitating to anyone he fought, including the Comedian, Nite Owl II, and Rorschach, all of whom are also portrayed with similar strength and physical prowess. He was also barely fazed when repeatedly punched by Nite Owl II, showing no pain or discomfort, as it he did not even feel the attacks. He also showed no pain when he had a bullet lodged into his hand when he caught it as it was being shot at him. He also had great speed, enough to catch a butcher knife at point blank range, dodged gunfire by running and with acrobatics, and moved his hand into the path of a bullet at point blank range, lodging it in his palm."
I question the accuracy of this wiki post. I mean, saying something like "With most superheroes being depicted to having superhuman strength and fighting abilities, he is portrayed as the most physically powerful." - that's highly ambiguous. Superhuman strength can go from someone like Marv to someone like Hulk. I don't think Ozymandias being "the most physically powerful" means he's stronger than Hulk or even Spiderman.
But based on screen feats, Cap is stronger than Ozy, or at least had better strength feats.
We've been over this before, they were above human... they displayed super-human feats. Sure not always, but they do have some. Ozy treated them as if they were nothing.
Did you miss the part where Ozy was LITERALLY toying with them every single moment of that fight. He was hardly trying, and casually tooling them. I don't believe you re-watched the scene if you just described it as such.
Um no, just no. It does take superspeed, and to even say it doesn't is flat out being disingenuous. His reactions are above anything WS every showed in ANY scene.
Now its aim dodging lol. Okay bud. Right.
He's simply more skilled than WS and would make him look pretty bad throughout most of the fight. WS durability keeps him in the fight, but he's outclassed here.
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