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Darth Skotia vs Darth Tyranus [Force only]
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Ursumeles
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Darth Skotia vs Darth Tyranus [Force only]

Who wins?


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Tyranus stomps


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MythLord
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Bring four Skotia's and Tyranus would stil mop the floor with them.


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Tondemonai
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Skotia via superior aug and otherwise superior Force strength


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Skotia via superior aug and otherwise superior Force strength


laughing laughing laughing What drugs are you on? You realize your Vader scaling falls flat on it's ass on so many levels, right?


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laughing laughing laughing What drugs are you on? You realize your Vader scaling falls flat on it's ass on so many levels, right?


I have yet to see an argument that disproves it smile


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Dooku, yeah.


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I have yet to see an argument that disproves it smile


- Cylo did so with prep, with a more powerful device he specifically built and planted on Vader, whereas Skotia got inflicted by some random device
- Vader is completely cybernetic in nature, whereas Skotia's only somewhat cybernetic
- It can only mean Skotia's better at a specific Force ability, as oppose to him being overall more powerful; but Traya's better at precognition than Yoda yet we don't have her as ~ Yoda
- It's canon Vader, who is in no way comparable to someone like Dooku

Your argument is bunk.


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- Cylo did so with prep, with a more powerful device he specifically built and planted on Vader, whereas Skotia got inflicted by some random device


It was meant to shut down Vader's cybernetics, while the device used on Skotia was, you guessed it, designed to shut down cybernetics. It's designed to completely disable his cybernetics, through overloading the thing that controls his cybernetics. There's no reason to assume Cylo turning off Vader's suit and cybernetics would be any more thorough than using a device to completely disable Skotia's cybernetics. We're essentially comparing pushing the power button on a computer to overloading the circuits and shit.

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- Vader is completely cybernetic in nature, whereas Skotia's only somewhat cybernetic


He's no more cybernetic than Skotia, if anything he's less cybernetic than Skotia, as in Vader's body is more organic than Skotia's. His suit may add to it, but we know that all four of Skotia's limbs are cybernetic, his eyes are cybernetic, parts of his face are cybernetic, his spine appears to be cybernetic, and we know for a fact he's at the very least 50% machine because, according to the creator of the divine, "you'd need someone at least fifty percent machine to do any real damage." Not to mention multiple quotes stating him more than half machine. Vader may have many quotes himself, but there's more visible evidence implying otherwise, which is more reliable than a statement. Plus many of them are from people that have no way to actually know if he is more machine than man, and are thus void and unfounded.
Pretty solid analysis of how much of Vader was machine: https://scifi.stackexchange.com/que...was-darth-vader
Also the clip of the device's creator for taking about it: http://youtu.be/HuyzXoJ9kl8 (6:20)

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- It can only mean Skotia's better at a specific Force ability, as oppose to him being overall more powerful; but Traya's better at precognition than Yoda yet we don't have her as ~ Yoda


You're connecting two completely different things. This was a feat of telekinetic manipulation of the body to move it since it was completely unresponsive. They both have telekinetic capabilities, which they both have. But it's Vader's trademark form of Force manipulation, so the fact that Skotia has shown to be more precise and skilled with it in the same situation Vader was in implies superiority in the area, be it in mastery, actual power, or both. So no, it's not like comparing Traya and Yoda's precog, it's a case of comparing Dooku and Savage lifting the obelisks.

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- It's canon Vader, who is in no way comparable to someone like Dooku


You have Legends/Composite Dooku above Canon Vader?

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Your argument is bunk.


Nah smile


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Is the argument about who is better at moving a carcass? LMAO.


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They both have telekinetic capabilities, which they both have.


**** you dyslexia


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Dooku one-shots


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No idea who would win but Count is not one-shotting an opponent this strong.

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Azronger
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"No idea"? You mean you're actually subscribing to Tond's scaling?


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Skotia two shots

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Tondemonai
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@Azronger do you actually have an argument for why it's dismissible? Do you have a reason for dismissing it?


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So were using game mechanics now? More to that point, the device Nox got was to damage Skotia's systems, not shut him down, there's a difference between damaging and shutting down a machine. A damaged machine can still work depending on how much it's damaged.


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