Honestly haven't seen enough of Batfleck. Though I'd probably give him the edge due to his gadgets. If we're strictly talking h2h though it'd be pretty close. Bruce is undoubtedly stronger but Matt can take a hell of a beating.
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Definitely not the only factor. Keep in mind Kingpin is stronger than either of them and hits like an absolute truck. Yet DD was able to beat him at the end of S1. Batfleck is definitely stronger just based on build and regimen; but again, Matt can tank an unholy amount of damage. It's a war of attrition and if Bruce isn't using his gadgets I think he loses.
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Tough fight here. As people have noted, Bruce is stronger, but Matt has the edge in speed and nimbleness. I think Bats has more/better gadgets than Matt here, so he should take that fight. H2H I am leaning towards Matt though, as we have yet to see how well Bruce holds up against a tougher and more skilled opponent without using special weapons/gadgets. But it is going to be a hell of a fight either way IMO.
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Didn't Bruce dodge shot gun fire and appear as a blur to that one cop at the beginning of the movie? As for skill Matt has more feats but would likely get tossed around if Bruce got his hands on him. He has better skill feats than Bruce, so it could go either way imo
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Yes, by the weightlifting in DD S2. Kingpin was easily benching 400+ lbs.
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Kingpin isn't stronger than Batman.. Even if he was, Batman is faster, more agile and a better fighter than Fisk. Daredevil is a good fighter but he gets beat up more than Batman ever did; just look at that famous hallway fight scene or basically the entirety of S1 dudes getting his ass handed to him constantly. Great tanking ability won't get him far with a guy thats as good a fighter as he is or a guy who arguably hits harder than anybody he's fought before, including Kingpin
Last edited by relentless1 on Apr 2nd, 2016 at 12:19 AM
watch the training montage with Bruce, he's squatting like 6 plates on each side and does pull ups with three plus he lifts most of that big girder off of Wallace during the metropolis battle. They are at the very least in the same ball park strength wise
Last edited by relentless1 on Apr 2nd, 2016 at 12:23 AM
No they aren't. Kingpin wasn't even sweating. It looked like he was warming up with the weight that was on there. Batfleck aint that strong. Also, didn't Kingpin casually snap the cuffs that were holding him when he was talking to Matt in prison?
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By all means, post the multiple clips where DD constantly had his ass handed to him during basically the entirety of season 1. Go ahead and please post the clips to back your claims.
And do not post just the one hallway fight where Matt was concussed, had multiple fractured ribs, internal bleeding and heavy blood loss from a deep stab wound, and multiple other lacerations and bruises (at least all according the the night nurse, Claire's, assessment, though she mentioned she couldn't check the full extent of the damage without better equipment), in a fight where he had no armour or billy clubs... which he still ended up winning. Because he was basically half dead and, even then, was NOT getting his ass handed to him.
So post the multiple clips of DD losing fights or "getting his ass handed to him". Do so or get reported for avoiding the burden of proof.
And I love how you conveniently gloss over the fact that that was a less experienced, less muscular, less armoured, less prepared and less overall capable DD than what we have now.
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LOL easy killer, what is daredevil your dad or something?
Anyways he may have walked out of his fights throughout the show a winner but he did get his ass beat several times in the process. he has such a hard time taking people down its like watching a jackie chan fight but worse. Look at the prolonged fight he has with the knife guy early in S1, it took him like 10 mins to finally take that one guy down. LOL he struggled with a plain goon when he almost got impaled on that fence spike too. Pathetic showings really, DD barley made it out of most of these fights alive. Nobu was beating his ass; even the retard who makes his armour almost killed him.
Point is he struggles with fights way more than Batman did.
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