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Classic Rogue vs Luke Cage

This is Rogue with Ms. Marvel's powers ONLY (no power absorption) vs current Luke Cage. Fight takes place in the Great Lawn section of Central Park. Both of them are fighting in character but fighting to win.

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IMHO, I think C.Rogue wins after a good fight. She definitely has the mobility and speed advantage. Strength/Durability/Stamina is more or less equal (especially with the way Cage has been written up these past few years).


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I want to say Rogue.

But with that monster she's facing here... nobody can be sure. Even Namor had trouble and he had both the advantage of a sneak attack and most of the fight happening underwater.


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I want to say Rogue.

But with that monster she's facing here... nobody can be sure. Even Namor had trouble and he had both the advantage of a sneak attack and most of the fight happening underwater.

Yeah but that was AvX though. The BS was piled thick and high there. Lots of fights made no sense, case in point Rachel with NO PF vs Thor. She actually did better without the PF than with (they had fought before and Thor one shotted her). Didn't Domino beat Rulk? Black Widow was actually owning Magik till Magik took the fight to Limbo or something. Absolutely ridiculous. sick

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Thanks for the correction DarkSaint.


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Domino beat Rulk, lol.


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Luck powers greater than gamma powah. Next thread Hulk vs Longshot


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Domino beat Rulk, lol.
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Luck powers greater than gamma powah. Next thread Hulk vs Longshot

Who do you think wins though? Answer ZOPZOP!


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Domino beat Rulk, lol.


In the last AvX Vs. issue which was written purely for lulz.

Jarvis beat Toad there laughing out loud

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Yeah but that was AvX though. The BS was piled thick and high there. Lots of fights made no sense, case in point Rachel with NO PF vs Thor. She actually did better without the PF than with (they had fought before and Thor one shotted her). Didn't Domino beat Rulk? Black Widow was actually owning Magik till Magik took the fight to Limbo or something. Absolutely ridiculous. sick

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Thanks for the correction DarkSaint.


"That was AvX" excuse doesn't work in Cage's case. Remember, he bloodied Ethan Edwards, too.

Look at his feats. Doesn't matter if you're solid or intangible, as long as you're white not on his side, he'll punch you out.


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"That was AvX" excuse doesn't work in Cage's case. Remember, he bloodied Ethan Edwards, too.

And Namor bloodied Thanos recently. That doesn't mean he'd beat Thanos.

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Look at his feats. Doesn't matter if you're solid or intangible, as long as you're white not on his side, he'll punch you out.

Yes, but Rogue isn't a straight white male. She's got a vagina. Doesn't that nullify one of Cage's unfair advantages? wink


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And Namor bloodied Thanos recently. That doesn't mean he'd beat Thanos.


Sure.

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Yes, but Rogue isn't a straight white male. She's got a vagina. Doesn't that nullify one of Cage's unfair advantages? wink


Tbh? Don't think it does laughing out loud

Cage is all over the place, one time he's struggling with Nagan, the other time we see him knocking the Hulk on his ass with a punch...


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Going with Rogue. Stronger, faster, more durable, etc.


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This fight has happened before, back when cage was significantly beneath what he is these days.
https://m.imgur.com/a/pbEmK


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Never saw that I don't think. Rogue definitely looked better there but that was a long time ago.


Cage did ok vs the Thing back in the day when Grimm used to hold his own against the Hulk. 70s Cage was stronger than people think.


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Never saw that I don't think. Rogue definitely looked better there but that was a long time ago.


Cage did ok vs the Thing back in the day when Grimm used to hold his own against the Hulk. 70s Cage was stronger than people think.
not sure how she looked better. They both landed the same amount of hits and they were both doing just fine. It's just that she used bfr to get rid of him.


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Cage did ok vs the Thing back in the day when Grimm used to hold his own against the Hulk. 70s Cage was stronger than people think.

Check out the scans I posted in the Thing vs Luke Cage thread below. Puts the whole fight in context.


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Yes, she BFR'd him by punching him to the next area code.


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Yes, she BFR'd him by punching him to the next area code.

No not that. I was referring to your comment about Luke Cage holding his own vs Thing back in the day. It didn't happen the way people think it happened. I posted scans but long story short it's this :
Thing was depowered and in human form. Reed made him a "Thing suit" so he could still contribute to the team. The "Thing suit" was and I'm quoting Reed himself here "about as strong as Power Man (aka Luke Cage)". That's the Thing Luke Cage fought. Thing even commented that the suit wasn't as strong as he was in his true rock form.


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not sure how she looked better. They both landed the same amount of hits and they were both doing just fine. It's just that she used bfr to get rid of him.

Uhm, she KOed him :
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Going with Rogue. Stronger, faster, more durable, etc.


Strength and durability are actually pretty close, with Cage possibly being stronger while Rogue was slightly more durable (maybe?).

Cage's strength has definitely grown over the decades. These days he has to be at least between class 65-70 when compared to the Thing's overall strength which is also comparable to Ironclad, Proxima Midnight, and the Rhino's strength levels. His showing against Namor for the most part shows approximately how much damage that he can take. On the other hand, classic Rogue would have been able to take a full punch from Namor without being Ko'd as well. Binary punched her after all, which was easily as strong as Namor's best punch. She'd be a bit shaken, but she was nearly indestructible.

With her speed and durability, she my be able to knock him out if she flew into him at very high speeds with a solid enough strike imo.


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Uhm, she KOed him :
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Stunned, technically stick out tongue But yeah, she got the upper hand. And fast.

Funny how he was concerned about falling:

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Uhm, she KOed him :
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That's impressive even if it is 70's Cage.


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