__________________ "Happiness is a lie. Life is horror. The light is always dying all across the universe. The last star will flicker out someday, when it does, all that remains is shadow. And I will be its king!"'-Amahl Farouk
X is an extremely difficult opponent for characters without some telepathic defense or the ability to blitz faster than thought. Almost insurmountable really.
It's not always as noticeable, because they tend to write him out via plot device, because otherwise it'd be an easy win for the X-men (gets poisoned by Mystique via Cerebro in one film, has the other telepath in the wheelchair used against him in X2, literally disintegrating him in X3, the helmet with first Shaw and then Mags in First Class, the medicine that let him walk at the cost of his powers in DoFP, making him semi-senile in Logan etc.). The writers generally have to find a reason to bench him because, as shown as far back as the first film, he can flat-out mind control someone who doesn't have resistance/protection, at 2:20 odd here:
or freeze them in place:
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Yeah, going by feats, this is no stomp for Xavier at all. He simply doesnt have great teack record.
A friend at HeroChat wrote the below concerning the same match up, it was fun reading:
None of those reasons are really relevant to this fight though.
- Strange doesn't have telepathy.
- Strange doesn't have a helmet which makes him immune to telepathy.
- Strange isn't going to sneak into the X-Mansion and put poison in Cerebro during the middle of the fight.
- Xavier was betrayed by Magneto in X2, which is why he got captured. Stryker specifically prepped to have him captured.
- The Sentinels were robots, which Strange isn't, so not really applicable either.
- Apocalypse had Magneto's help when capturing him and would murder Strange as well.
The only way I see Strange not getting mind-raped here is if you give him prep.
__________________ Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
I think it establishes a track record of him not really doing much, but being given wins in fights regardless.
Thats just my take, though.
I’m perfctly happy w. either guy winning, just wanted to get some more feedback from you, which i really enjoy!
Well Zod never won a fight either but based on his powers we would give him a win over a ton of people assuming he's powered.
But Xavier had a much of plot working against him. I mean to be fair his encounter with Stryker's son was when his powers were being blocked yet he still resisted for a long ass time.
Sure it can. Again Zod(never won) would dominate John Preston(always won) in a fight for example. It depends on the character's abilities and known tactics more some than their win/loss records.
Xavier has not only shown the ability to control minds but has done it multiple times at ease even mid fight. The only times he doesn't is against beings with known resistances to it or individuals that have prepared specifically to combat or avoid it. Strange doesn't fall within either category
And this is what nakes for a debate imo, because Steange isnt just waiting for Xavier to do things. He has potent offensive abilities, his sling ring, his eye, the ability to enter the mirror dimension, his astral form...
...win or lose, Xavier’s not just shutting him down.
And while Zod’s a decent example for your case he’s not perfect, as he kicked all kinds of ass throughout his one appearance w. powers he wasnt really used to, and wasnt a glass cannon.
That and as a bad guy, Zod was destined to lose regardless.
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